John Lambies Doos Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 The PLP are going mental about Dugher being fired on twitter. Scenes. Scenes everywhere. Labour are finished. They are self serving rats. Corbyn the weak minded tool has pandered too much to the plp eg Benn that they have no respect for him. On the other side he has failed to act on the massive mandate he had from the party to seriously change it. It's curtains.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Any bookies taking bets on who survives the reshuffle? I fancy Ian Murray to keep his gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 . By all accounts, he's fairly popular in the Parliamentary Labour Party so I would expect this to go down pretty badly among MPs. Being fairly popular in Labour PLP's is a glowing endorsement that you're an utter cock womble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Being fairly popular in Labour PLP's is a glowing endorsement that you're an utter cock womble. Just being in the PLP pretty much covers it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Just being in the PLP pretty much covers it. Amen, brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Labour are finished. They are self serving rats. Corbyn the weak minded tool has pandered too much to the plp eg Benn that they have no respect for him. On the other side he has failed to act on the massive mandate he had from the party to seriously change it. It's curtains.. Many years ago,when I was active in the Labour Party, the worst insult you could make or receive was being naive. No one wanted to be thought of as naive. Sadly Corbyn is naive; and I don't mean it as an insult. He genuinely thinks he can create some sort of consensual approach that takes in the different views within the PLP. His approach reminds me of the film line (The Untouchables?) of bringing a knife to a gunfight. There's people within the PLP that would stamp on Corbyn's head (figuratively and, possibly, literally) if they could get away with it. They don't want consensual, internal politics - they want Corbyn and his ilk destroyed. Corbyn has a problem with the right within the PLP because they stand in the way of his vision. They have a problem with him because he stands in the way of their careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Many years ago,when I was active in the Labour Party, the worst insult you could make or receive was being naive. No one wanted to be thought of as naive. Sadly Corbyn is naive; and I don't mean it as an insult. He genuinely thinks he can create some sort of consensual approach that takes in the different views within the PLP. His approach reminds me of the film line (The Untouchables?) of bringing a knife to a gunfight. There's people within the PLP that would stamp on Corbyn's head (figuratively and, possibly, literally) if they could get away with it. They don't want consensual, internal politics - they want Corbyn and his ilk destroyed. Corbyn has a problem with the right within the PLP because they stand in the way of his vision. They have a problem with him because he stands in the way of their careers. Exactly, Finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 The mini shuffle isnt finished yet im hearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crossbill Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Apparently, constantly calling your boss a dick will eventually lead to you getting the sack. Who knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 If yer really wanting a laugh, some random on Labour Hame is advocating Gorgeous George be let back in Labour so that he can stand for the next Westminster election... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Lady Nugee, of foto of English flags fame is tipped to be next shadow defence secretary. Permashuffle rumbles on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Wow. Just wow. It was not a joke. Alienated people who wave England flags during the world cup. Have someone who knows little about defence as point on defence, have someone with serious patriotism questions on point in defence and sack someone for allegedly saying terrorists are responsible for terrorism. This is disastrous to the point of being like it was written by Armando Iannucci. Its like Goldsmiths Student Union is running the Labour party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 "Serious patriotism questions". Aye, sounds like Armando. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Many years ago,when I was active in the Labour Party, the worst insult you could make or receive was being naive. No one wanted to be thought of as naive. Sadly Corbyn is naive; and I don't mean it as an insult. He genuinely thinks he can create some sort of consensual approach that takes in the different views within the PLP. His approach reminds me of the film line (The Untouchables?) of bringing a knife to a gunfight. There's people within the PLP that would stamp on Corbyn's head (figuratively and, possibly, literally) if they could get away with it. They don't want consensual, internal politics - they want Corbyn and his ilk destroyed. Corbyn has a problem with the right within the PLP because they stand in the way of his vision. They have a problem with him because he stands in the way of their careers. Nail / head interfacing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Apparently Pat McFadden was sacked because of these comments in the wake of the Paris attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Apparently Pat McFadden was sacked because of these comments in the wake of the Paris attacks. ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1452067891.764870.jpg Don't be so fucking naive, of course he wasn't sacked for those comments. You "moderates" are beyond the pale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Wow. Just wow. It was not a joke. Alienated people who wave England flags during the world cup. Have someone who knows little about defence as point on defence, have someone with serious patriotism questions on point in defence and sack someone for allegedly saying terrorists are responsible for terrorism. This is disastrous to the point of being like it was written by Armando Iannucci. Its like Goldsmiths Student Union is running the Labour party. Two points here: 1) It's more or less a given that Defence secretaries know nothing about defence, it's the only way to rationalise 40 years of defence policy. A broader point is that these guys are almost always lawyers or Oxbridge poltiics graduates, the health secretary is not a doctor, the energy secretary does not have a wealth of engineering industry experience, the chancellor is not an economist.... and on, and on and on. 2) The Labour party, famously, is not a fan of Scottish nationalism - why would they then be a fan of any expression of English identity over British? How does that qualify as a patriotism issue? Surely her patriotism is directed at the Union flag - not St Andrews or St Georges' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Three labour front bench resignations today, PMQ was a shambles for Corbyn and they look like they are a party in full civil war. I've never seen a party collapse like this before, it's car crash stuff yet totally enthralling at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Three labour front bench resignations today, PMQ was a shambles for Corbyn and they look like they are a party in full civil war. I've never seen a party collapse like this before, it's car crash stuff yet totally enthralling at the same time. Jonathon Reynolds, Stephen Doughty and Kevan Jones. I take a reasonable interest in politics and have never heard of any of these three. The level of absolute no marks in the shadow cabinet is frightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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