Venti Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I did a show & tell when I went to school in the US (Raleigh, North Carolina). Noone understood my accent, so I'm surprised I wasn't shot. Should have done it on the Loch Ness Monster like Napoleon Dynamite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 4 hours ago, ICTChris said: The mother of a school shooter has been convicted of involuntary manslaughter for failing to intervene to prevent the shooting. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68223118 Unsure what to make of this - what level of culpability can you put on a parent? I do remember reading some stuff about this, the parent had exchanged messages with their child essentially telling him to ignore what the school were saying and instructing him not to tell anyone about the gun they had bought him - illegally in that state, I think. So it could be that they have been particularly culpable. There a few interesting twists in this one: -Parent said, on the stand, that they wouldn’t change anything they had done. -Parent was on video exiting a shooting range with the child and carrying the pistol three days before the shooting. That was the last evidence of who had the pistol before the rampage. She stated she didn’t lock it up as it was the father’s job. -Parent posted a picture of her with the child and gun, at the range, to social media talking about the child’s early Christmas present. -Parent exchanged texts about child’s behaviour, and was aware of texts by the child, and discounted them. -Parent never even answered child’s texted pleas for assistance with ghosts and spirits in the house bothering him, and instead suggested they were all a long running gag. -Parent declined to remove student from school on the day of the event after a meeting at school where it was suggested the child be immediately sent for mental evaluation for behaviours, statements and pictures drawn with disturbing comments. Parent also discounted the behaviour to the school officials, and never mentioned he had access to a gun while he drew pictures of shooting people, and wrote the voices were telling him to do it. -Parent was on the ran and in hiding after the kid was arrested. Father’s trial to start soon. Honestly, about time some people were held responsible for their failures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyAnchor Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 6 hours ago, Venti said: I did a show & tell when I went to school in the US (Raleigh, North Carolina). Noone understood my accent, so I'm surprised I wasn't shot. Should have done it on the Loch Ness Monster like Napoleon Dynamite. I used to live in Chapel Hill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 14 minutes ago, BillyAnchor said: I used to live in Chapel Hill Probably would have been down the Crabtree Valley Mall. Think I seen Back to the Future there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Sky reporting a possible shooter(s) at the KCC superbowl parade 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 07/02/2024 at 09:42, velo army said: I'd like to see the Uvalde Police Department with a similar conviction, but this won't happen, mainly as Police don't have a duty to protect citizens in the U.S. Its wild (but not that surprising) that the U.S. is more attracted to increasing incarceration than it is to actual gun control. There's even chat in that article of prosecuting schools. Teachers who have to buy their own materials and in charge of huge classes being jailed for failing to prevent a shooting. f**k me. Fwiw the person who acted as commander for that incident should absolutely imo be charged as criminally culpable, that whole incident was despicable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 There hasn't been a good one in ages. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Billy Jean King said: Sky reporting a possible shooter(s) at the KCC superbowl parade 14 injured from 2 shooters. Fundamentally unserious country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, 101 said: 14 injured from 2 shooters. Fundamentally unserious country. The most fukd up thing for me was the first reports that two persons in possession of guns had been arrested was given a caveat that given gun law (ha ha) in KC it was unwise to assume that the two arrested were shooters and that they could have been "public defenders" (yank tv reporters words) mistaken for attackers. An absolute basket case of a country. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Fwiw the person who acted as commander for that incident should absolutely imo be charged as criminally culpable, that whole incident was despicable. The basic problems are; there was no clear process for designation of a onsite leader, there was no attempt to follow current training to attack the shooter until they are neutralised, and both officers (and parents, for that matter) attempting to take action were prevented from doing so. While it’s easy to blame the Uvalde ISD Police Chief, the charge wouldn’t stand simply because there is no damning evidence he WAS in charge and/or knew it. I would like to know how the police who prevented a fellow officer, whose wife bled to death during the waiting, from attacking the room where the suspect was barricaded are dealing with that? Or the cops who threatened parents and bystanders with arrest if they didn’t move away from the school while some of their children either bled to death or were executed for calling out in response to the police? I’m shocked how few of the involved officers have resigned. Fewer than 10 officers have faced any discipline or charges for this massacre, and it’s doubtful any more could be charged. The coroner charged with investigating how many may have survived if police intervened sooner was dismissed shortly after he got started and had announced at least 1 person was alive 20 minutes after it started (died before the 70 minute mark), and that another 4 had heartbeats when the situation ended but died. He was then removed, the investigation shutdown, and he was never given access to autopsy data. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 35 minutes ago, 101 said: 14 injured from 2 shooters. Fundamentally unserious country. 1 dead plus 15 injured now, although it seems not all the injuries are gunshot wounds, some reports saying folk were hurt trying to run away. https://www.nfl.com/news/shooting-chiefs-super-bowl-parade 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Sorry if already posted but the oft-shot Anglo-American rapper, 21 Savage, had the idea of encouraging folk to use paintball guns to blow off steam. Well-intentioned but folk started blasting each other, police cars, houses etc. Then folk started using real guns on the paintballers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 5 minutes ago, peasy23 said: 1 dead plus 15 injured now, although it seems not all the injuries are gunshot wounds, some reports saying folk were hurt trying to run away. https://www.nfl.com/news/shooting-chiefs-super-bowl-parade Presumably a crush, shame there weren't more good guys with guns as they are of course the answer. Just now, Shandon Par said: Well-intentioned but folk started blasting each other, police cars, houses etc. Then folk started using real guns on the paintballers. ^ Shat it when attempting a nouveau painting technique 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3 suspects have been arrested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Only in America could a celebration of a sporting achievement be turned into folk getting shot. Murica f**k yeah. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 34 minutes ago, 10menwent2mow said: Only in America could a celebration of a sporting achievement be turned into folk getting shot. Murica f**k yeah. While over here we have mutants taking a shite on the street. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, 10menwent2mow said: Only in America could a celebration of a sporting achievement be turned into folk getting shot. Murica f**k yeah. Probably better phrased as "the Americas", given Colombia's record of lodging complaints with own goal scorers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Presumably it was Marquez Valdez-Scantling and Kadarius Toney who dropped the shooters? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 10 hours ago, TxRover said: The basic problems are; there was no clear process for designation of a onsite leader, there was no attempt to follow current training to attack the shooter until they are neutralised, and both officers (and parents, for that matter) attempting to take action were prevented from doing so. While it’s easy to blame the Uvalde ISD Police Chief, the charge wouldn’t stand simply because there is no damning evidence he WAS in charge and/or knew it. I would like to know how the police who prevented a fellow officer, whose wife bled to death during the waiting, from attacking the room where the suspect was barricaded are dealing with that? Or the cops who threatened parents and bystanders with arrest if they didn’t move away from the school while some of their children either bled to death or were executed for calling out in response to the police? I’m shocked how few of the involved officers have resigned. Fewer than 10 officers have faced any discipline or charges for this massacre, and it’s doubtful any more could be charged. The coroner charged with investigating how many may have survived if police intervened sooner was dismissed shortly after he got started and had announced at least 1 person was alive 20 minutes after it started (died before the 70 minute mark), and that another 4 had heartbeats when the situation ended but died. He was then removed, the investigation shutdown, and he was never given access to autopsy data. Im sorry but i disagree with you, the up chief was the most senior officer at the locus, unless its claimed elsewhere that means given its his jurisdiction that its his ball. Granted i work in a different area, but as a supervisor if i go to something then its clear as to who is in charge and thats something that you have to be able to be answerable to your decisions. That idiot went to that school to play at big shot and was overwhelmed, his inaction led to children being killed. My understanding is the tactic is the same in the US as it is in the UK, that active shooters should be engaged and stopped, he failed to do that and actively prevented capable police officers from doing so. You can hear the shots going on as he holds the containment. It was despicable. Sometimes you find yourself in situations where you’re terrified, but he was a shitebag and should be locked up. Another one who loved the title ‘police chief’ but failed to do his duty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 8 hours ago, peasy23 said: 3 suspects have been arrested. But no one charged yet which strikes me as odd, you would think it would be a pretty simple case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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