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12 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

I don’t think Oaksofts been banned, has he? He’s just too busy writing porn to converse with us.

Aye, last I saw he'd been punted for taking the piss out of folk for things they'd confessed on the Depression thread.

What's going on with the porn thing?  :lol:

7 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

Look at them in a mirror

Oh, FFS.

I don't think I've ever loved anything as much as that boy loves this website.

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1 minute ago, BFTD said:

Aye, last I saw he'd been punted for taking the piss out of folk for things they'd confessed on the Depression thread.

What's going on with the porn thing?  :lol:

Fair enough, sounds about right.

Might be mixing him up with someone, but pretty sure he was boasting about selling his company and retiring to write films, and then posted some absolute filth.

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Just now, oneteaminglasgow said:

Fair enough, sounds about right.

Might be mixing him up with someone, but pretty sure he was boasting about selling his company and retiring to write films, and then posted some absolute filth.

I'm really hoping that's true  :lol:

He went through a phase of complaining about how much he hated everyone, and had an "exit plan" ready to quit civilisation and live in a compound far from humanity. Maybe making scud flicks was part of it, although I think you have to retain some kind of contact with humans for that.

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8 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:
10 hours ago, Stormzy said:
I do sincerely think some people, probably a tiny percentage of people will be turned off from Nicola Sturgeon if this gains any more traction. 
You can disagree with my term torpedo, perhaps an inconsequential attempted dunt would suffice? 

Those who are lapping this up are the "Eh hate that wummin" types and yer da apologists.

Well or course but I'm sure some others won't exactly view it as a positive story when stumbling across it in the news. 

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9 minutes ago, Aufc said:

The best bit about this whole salmond thing is all the union gammons suddenly wanting to believe him when they didnt believe him in the referendum

Got any example of this?

Surely Sturgeon gammon supporters versus Salmonds gammon supporters is the most entertaining.

 

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4 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

 

On the question of torpedoing independence, quite possibly. Whether it's the end goal or just an unfortunate side effect of setting the record straight, or something he just doesn't recognise is a risk, I don't know. I'd lean towards he last interpretation.

 

The party (and the independence movement) will always be greater than any individuals.

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Got any example of this?
Surely Sturgeon gammon supporters versus Salmonds gammon supporters is the most entertaining.
 


Well #resignsturgeon is trending on twitter and there are hundreds of accounts all with union jacks in their bio suddenly painting salmond as some sort of hero and truth teller. Comedy
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23 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

If you look back at the history of the SNP, the previous generations of leadership are a perennial pain in the arse for the incumbent leadership. Gordon Wilson, Jim Sillars were regularly in the papers saying Salmond and Swinney were doing a shite job, Salmond for a spell before being exposed a sex pest was beginning to do the same with his RT show. For the moment proxies like Joanna Cherry, Angus MacNeil, Chris McEleny do this. I wouldn't be particularly surprised if those in the current leadership who were keen on Salmond getting done had one eye on him being permanently discredited and having to withdraw from public life to break this cycle.

I suppose on reflection it shouldn't be a surprise he is on manoeuvres again. The common theme in all of this is folk who have spent their lives being deferred to suddenly being at a loose end once they've handed over control, and jumping at the chance to be listened to again even if it's an unsympathetic journalist. Salmond has the added quality of having form in ignoring reality staring him in the face, his secret Canadian pollsters assuring him Yes would win preventing him putting the work in on currency, hard border in favour of hand waving, project fear etc. It's not just an SNP thing, it's the same deal with Tommy Sheridan, George Galloway etc. I think a lot of it  is down to grandees of parties that won't go to the Lords not having retirement plans.

On the question of torpedoing independence, quite possibly. Whether it's the end goal or just an unfortunate side effect of setting the record straight, or something he just doesn't recognise is a risk, I don't know. I'd lean towards he last interpretation.

I sometimes wonder if the dissenting voices criticising the SNP from within the party helps the SNP maintain their support from outside the party/ wider independence movement. 

For example, Alex Neil criticising the party's stance on Brexit showed that it's possible to think not being in the EU and still supporting independence is a legitimate stance to take. Especially when a fair chunk of SNP members voted Leave in 2016. 

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17 minutes ago, Aufc said:

 


Well #resignsturgeon is trending on twitter and there are hundreds of accounts all with union jacks in their bio suddenly painting salmond as some sort of hero and truth teller. Comedy

 

Can't say I've seen much of that tbf.

Im enjoying the saltire gammon brigade panicking and picking their sides. One said "Stop talking about it on here you're doing the Tories a favour" 😂

Some of them seem a lot more worried than the majority on here though. I don't think it's the end of the world or the start of the beginning of the end as someone previously said, I reckon this will blow over fairly straight forward. The Indy supporters who choose Salmonds side are absolute mentalists to me. 

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37 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

If you look back at the history of the SNP, the previous generations of leadership are a perennial pain in the arse for the incumbent leadership. Gordon Wilson, Jim Sillars were regularly in the papers saying Salmond and Swinney were doing a shite job, Salmond for a spell before being exposed a sex pest was beginning to do the same with his RT show. For the moment proxies like Joanna Cherry, Angus MacNeil, Chris McEleny do this. I wouldn't be particularly surprised if those in the current leadership who were keen on Salmond getting done had one eye on him being permanently discredited and having to withdraw from public life to break this cycle.

I suppose on reflection it shouldn't be a surprise he is on manoeuvres again. The common theme in all of this is folk who have spent their lives being deferred to suddenly being at a loose end once they've handed over control, and jumping at the chance to be listened to again even if it's an unsympathetic journalist. Salmond has the added quality of having form in ignoring reality staring him in the face, his secret Canadian pollsters assuring him Yes would win preventing him putting the work in on currency, hard border in favour of hand waving, project fear etc. It's not just an SNP thing, it's the same deal with Tommy Sheridan, George Galloway etc. I think a lot of it  is down to grandees of parties that won't go to the Lords not having retirement plans.

On the question of torpedoing independence, quite possibly. Whether it's the end goal or just an unfortunate side effect of setting the record straight, or something he just doesn't recognise is a risk, I don't know. I'd lean towards he last interpretation.

Salmond was acquitted of all charges, as I told you he would be. People on here said he was a bit 'rapey', turns out they were full of shit.  So its incorrect, and infact libelous, to call him a 'sex pest'.  All those allegations were investigated thoroughly, hundreds of interviews carried out, thousands of police hours wasted, and a majority female jury of his peers found him innocent of all charges.  So Salmond is not a sex pest, he is the victim of a smear campaign.

You're completely misunderstanding the situation anyway,  he is not 'on manouvers' he is defending his legal reputation as he has no option but to do so, the same as you or I or Nicola Sturgeon would. He hasn't lied to anybody about anything.

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