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1 hour ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

If you can point me to any examples of racism in my posts, then I'll be sure to edit them accordingly.

You won't though, because there aren't any.

Your fulsome support for the likes of Tommy Robinson and Bernard Manning speaks for itself.

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11 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Your fulsome support for the likes of Tommy Robinson and Bernard Manning speaks for itself.

If you can show me what makes Tommy Robinson racist, as well as how I support him, then you may have a point.

Also, how do I support Bernard Manning?  His work was funny, that’s for sure.

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I'm going with "a democratic mandate from the electorate". Maybe one day the Tories will even manage to get a mandate for a referendum in Holyrood, but I'm not convinced any of us will live to see it.

Considering how dead independence supposedly is, this subforum's been getting absolutely hammered since the ruling party (who absolutely don't want independence) announced their plan to force the issue. Surprised all these posters aren't all kicking back watching the wrestling inside the sole head they operate out of.

*plonk*

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On 06/07/2022 at 18:00, Lyle Lanley said:

This will go to the general election now. 

It will “go to the general election” for sure, but I’m not sure that WM will accept the result of that either. 
 

 

The Lord Advocate not having the confidence that a Holyrood bill would be legal makes me think Sturgeon has no chance at the Supreme Court. 

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2 minutes ago, Donathan said:

The Lord Advocate not having the confidence that a Holyrood bill would be legal makes me think Sturgeon has no chance at the Supreme Court. 

If I recall correctly, the LA was not asked whether a bill would be within the competence of the Scottish Parliament. He was asked to refer the matter to the Supreme Court by Nicola Sturgeon. As far as I am aware, he has expressed no opinion on the matter.

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1 minute ago, lichtgilphead said:

If I recall correctly, the LA was not asked whether a bill would be within the competence of the Scottish Parliament. He was asked to refer the matter to the Supreme Court by Nicola Sturgeon. As far as I am aware, he has expressed no opinion on the matter.

https://news.stv.tv/politics/lord-advocate-lacks-necessary-confidence-on-legality-of-scottish-independence-vote-plans?amp
 

 

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Don't believe for a minute that a UK Supreme Court will judge favourably for the Scottish Government, unfortunately. It's shameful that we're even having to ask in the first place. So-called union of equals eh? 

For obvious reasons, I'd prefer to hold a referendum. It's a clear, straightforward Yes or No answer for the electorate. The idea of using a plebiscite/de facto referendum/whatever you want to call it, is open to mass confusion, spin and would play right into the unionists/media's hands. And seeing as it would remove 16-17 year olds and EU nationals votes, it would also be a very high-risk gamble, since their votes won't be counted and that's a fair chunk of potential Yes voters gone. 

Interesting few weeks coming up. 

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54 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said:

If I recall correctly, the LA was not asked whether a bill would be within the competence of the Scottish Parliament. He was asked to refer the matter to the Supreme Court by Nicola Sturgeon. As far as I am aware, he has expressed no opinion on the matter.

Gender debate thread for this pish.

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23 minutes ago, monthefife said:

Don't believe for a minute that a UK Supreme Court will judge favourably for the Scottish Government, unfortunately. It's shameful that we're even having to ask in the first place. So-called union of equals eh? 

No doubt it's been asked before, but presumably if the government decided it wanted to withdraw England from the UK, they'd just have a wee vote in parliament and do so, and the Scots/Welsh/Norn representatives would just have to lump it.

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