When will indyref2 happen?

[Dan Steele]

Quite amusing that a National sub-ed has Ruth and Arlene coming up to Scotland "to drum up support" for the Union. Not sure Arlene's presence at an OO march and an unelected Ruth, £300 a day sign in fee, during the huge increase in energy bills will have quite the effect they think. Mind you, if we could harness all the hot air they'll spout...

[BFTD]

7 minutes ago, Snafu said:

She probably had bias opinions on the subject before the interaction, she just needed confirmation to justify them.

If your opinion of a group of people is predicated entirely on an interaction with one of them, aye, probably fair to say there's something else behind it.

Like David Icke disliking the lizard people because Ted Heath threatened him. Give them a chance FFS.

[Fletcher23]

On 20/08/2022 at 16:57, Duries Air Freshener said:

To be fair, I have a lot of respect for Kenneth as he stands up for what he believes in.

Much like close friends (and I’m not joking) of mine who take part in Republican ‘marches’ and genuinely attend the AUOB stuff, he actually believes in something.

He’s not yer average SNP nugget who has been attracted to the party because it’s pure ‘Scoatish’.  Anyway, enough about Kenneth

I genuinely think he would win the mid wrestling contest.

Unless Trish Stratus was involved, in which case I’d bribe Vince.

@Fletcher23@Snafu thoughts?

Britain is a country in my eyes that I absolutely love.  I am proud to be British.

[Fletcher23]

2 hours ago, Day of the Lords said:

Most reasonable Unionists wouldn't think so. It's only attention-seeking morons like Kincy, DAF, Glen Minter, Spongeheid etc that seem to genuinely believe this stuff. 

Another abusive post from you. 

[Fletcher23]

2 hours ago, Snafu said:

https://www.thenational.scot/politics/20680520.scurrilous-claim-snp-supporters-anti-english-must-challenged/

'THE recent minor protest by various groups at the Conservative and Unionist Party husting in Perth was exploited by some in the media to endorse scurrilous claims that supporters of the SNP, or more broadly independence, are “anti-English”. I am not a member of the SNP, but of course we could all reference minor protests to apparently give some credence, no matter how threadbare, to our arguments. I would not insult the majority of respectful supporters of “the Union” by claiming the BNP, or the trolls of Scotland in Union, represent them or their convictions.'

Are SNP supporters anti English as the Unionists media claim or are is this just an opportunity to bash all Scottish Independence supporters and lump them all into one basket just because of a few idiots?

Maybe its a bit like the claim that all Unionists are bigots, lumping them all in together as all the same?

There is a broad spectrum within opinions on Scottish Independence, but that tiny minority on both sides with polarised views and actions tend to be more active in expressing them to the world than regular folk, feeding the medias obsession in creating even more divide and mistrust.

Do Unionists really think SNP supporters are anti English?

There is definitely some that are anti English as I have experienced it on many occasions.

 

[Fletcher23]

There should not  be another independence referendum until at least 2044. 

The question was asked and answered in 2014 so it is settled for a generation. The Union is not for sale.

What Scotland does not need now when we are recovering from covid, the war in Ukraine, gas and electricity prices, cost of living, the mess our nhs and education are in is another divisive, expensive, uneeeded and unwanted referendum on something that has already been settled. 

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[Dan Steele]

26 minutes ago, Snafu said:

They'll only be preaching to the converted.

I think you're right but I'd really expect a positive case (aye, I know) to be put out for a larger debate. 

28 minutes ago, Snafu said:

There's very much the hint of playground bully incoming from a Truss led UKG.

And this is what'll happen. Well, it already is but it'll be getting ramped up very soon.

[Fletcher23]

Scotland benefits by about 10% more public  spending than other parts of the UK. 

A benefit of being in the Union. 

[BFTD]

Entirely new posters who aren't sock puppets should have to pass a test on the use of multi-quote.

[Dan Steele]

11 minutes ago, Fletcher23 said:

settled for a generation.

I hear this a lot. Where, in a legal document do we find this very imprecise wording of "settled for generation"?

[williemillersmoustache]

All Unionist arguments boil down to one of three things:

The Johnny "Mad dog" Addair (Scotland just doesn't exist)

The Jacob "Top (Tw)Hat" Rees-Mogg (Scotland exists only to provide a place to hide the Queen and her nonce offspring, shoot defenceless idiotic animals and resources to plunder)

or The Simpleton Alex "Still raging about the on time on budget award bridge to his constituency" Cole-Hamilton who think change is scary and mayonnaise is too spicy. 

Or a combination thereof. 

 

[Mark Connolly]

1 minute ago, williemillersmoustache said:

who think mayonnaise is too spicy

Definitely stealing this

[williemillersmoustache]

6 minutes ago, BFTD said:

Entirely new posters who aren't sock puppets should have to pass a test on the use of multi-quote.

 

[Fletcher23]

6 minutes ago, The Skelpit Lug said:

I hear this a lot. Where, in a legal document do we find this very imprecise wording of "settled for generation"?

It was in the white paper Skelpit.

[Dan Steele]

7 minutes ago, Fletcher23 said:

It was in the white paper Skelpit.

A White Paper is a policy document setting out proposals. It's not the final Bill.

[TheScarf]

11 minutes ago, Fletcher23 said:

It was in the white paper Skelpit.

The white paper isn't a legislative document.

[Duries Air Freshener]

25 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said:

All Unionist arguments boil down to one of three things:

The Johnny "Mad dog" Addair (Scotland just doesn't exist)

The Jacob "Top (Tw)Hat" Rees-Mogg (Scotland exists only to provide a place to hide the Queen and her nonce offspring, shoot defenceless idiotic animals and resources to plunder)

or The Simpleton Alex "Still raging about the on time on budget award bridge to his constituency" Cole-Hamilton who think change is scary and mayonnaise is too spicy. 

Or a combination thereof. 

 

Still, it’s really us Unionists that post in bad faith eh?

[Fletcher23]

12 minutes ago, The Skelpit Lug said:

A White Paper is a policy document setting out proposals. It's not the final Bill.

 

9 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

The white paper isn't a legislative document.

Fair enough it's not a legislative document but it was a 670 page document that was laying out Scotland's future if we had voted for independence.

And it was printed in said document that the vote was once in a generation.

[welshbairn]

4 minutes ago, Fletcher23 said:

 

Fair enough it's not a legislative document but it was a 670 page document that was laying out Scotland's future if we had voted for independence.

And it was printed in said document that the vote was once in a generation.

It said it was a once in a generation opportunity, which it was, not that the issue would be settled for another generation.

[Duries Air Freshener]

2 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

It said it was a once in a generation opportunity, which it was, not that the issue would be settled for another generation.

Kinda the same thing?