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1 hour ago, German Jag said:

TARIC uses the exact same numbering system and nomenclature as the HTS which is what is used in global trade.

The EU may have a different import duty for say commodity 3204.17.60 as compared to the USA, but they both have the same 12000 tariffs (should really be commodity designations).

Both the EU & USA also differentiate as regards the country of origin as to whether customs duty (at whatever %, if any) is liable.

It's not just the number of tariffs. It's their levels, their application plus the quotas that count. Otherwise, why did the EU need a new trade deal, abolishing 98% of the tariffs, with Canada? 

The EU's TTIP deal with America is dead. The EU is well behind the UK for a trade deal with the USA under President Trump. We have gone from the back of the queue, as Obama promised if we voted to Brexit, to first in line.

If Obama wants to come to Britain, he, his entourage and hangers-on can join the back of the queues for visas the British Embassy and at Heathrow's passport control. 

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12750 or so tariffs sounds very much like the Harmonised Tariff System which is utilised by virtually every country in the world, including the USA as well as the others eg New Zealand which have been mentioned on here when potential free trade agreements have been brought up.

Thanks
I was wondering where that number came from
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15 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said:

It's not just the number of tariffs. It's their levels, their application plus the quotas that count. Otherwise, why did the EU need a new trade deal, abolishing 98% of the tariffs, with Canada? 

The EU's TTIP deal with America is dead. The EU is well behind the UK for a trade deal with the USA under President Trump. We have gone from the back of the queue, as Obama promised if we voted to Brexit, to first in line.

If Obama wants to come to Britain, he, his entourage and hangers-on can join the back of the queues for visas the British Embassy and at Heathrow's passport control. 

I don't want a trade deal with America, kiss goodbye to any decent public service. I have every faith that with May in charge said trade deals will be incredibly shit for your average man on the street.

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It's not just the number of tariffs. It's their levels, their application plus the quotas that count. Otherwise, why did the EU need a new trade deal, abolishing 98% of the tariffs, with Canada? 
The EU's TTIP deal with America is dead. The EU is well behind the UK for a trade deal with the USA under President Trump. We have gone from the back of the queue, as Obama promised if we voted to Brexit, to first in line.
If Obama wants to come to Britain, he, his entourage and hangers-on can join the back of the queues for visas the British Embassy and at Heathrow's passport control. 

The obsession with a US trade deal is absurd - we have 2.5 times more exports to the EU than the USA.

It could be the best ever UK-US trade deal and it would be irrelevant due to increased tarrifs to the EU.

There is also the reality that any US-UK trade deal will heavily weighted towards the US with the UK getting the scraps from Trump's table.
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15 hours ago, Alan Stubbs said:

Ah the old Westminster v Brussels power argument. Bless BB for at least trying to back up this shite, it's unusual to see.

I wonder how many Scottish Unionists have become hyper right wing Brexiteer slavers in a desperate attempt to drag Scotland down to their beloved England's level.

All of them, it would seem....

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2 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:


The obsession with a US trade deal is absurd - we have 2.5 times more exports to the EU than the USA.

It could be the best ever UK-US trade deal and it would be irrelevant due to increased tarrifs to the EU.

There is also the reality that any US-UK trade deal will heavily weighted towards the US with the UK getting the scraps from Trump's table.

It's not surprising as American goods are subjected to the EU's tariffs. As a EU Member State, Britain has no freedom to negotiate bilateral trade deals. Norway, in EFTA and the EEA, does have that freedom. Obama was desperate for the TTIP trade deal with the EU to succeed. 

As for the UK-US trade deal with Trump, the reality is that the deal has to benefit both countries. Trump has pulled out of the TPP and is very critical of NAFTA. There is a fantastic opportunity for the UK, especially as Trump's companies have invested hundreds of £millions in Scotland.

Trade is top of the agenda for Trump's meeting with May later today. We're first in queue - in stark contrast to Obama's insulting promise that we would be at the back if we voted for Brexit. If he wants to come to Britain again, he should join the back of the queue for his visa at the British embassy.

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5 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:


The obsession with a US trade deal is absurd - we have 2.5 times more exports to the EU than the USA.

It could be the best ever UK-US trade deal and it would be irrelevant due to increased tarrifs to the EU.

There is also the reality that any US-UK trade deal will heavily weighted towards the US with the UK getting the scraps from Trump's table.

Said it before, will say it again.  Anyone building an economoc plan for the UK based upon any of the Trump's utterances on trade needs to have their head examined.

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4 hours ago, Bishop Briggs said:

It's not surprising as American goods are subjected to the EU's tariffs. As a EU Member State, Britain has no freedom to negotiate bilateral trade deals. Norway, in EFTA and the EEA, does have that freedom. Obama was desperate for the TTIP trade deal with the EU to succeed. 

As for the UK-US trade deal with Trump, the reality is that the deal has to benefit both countries. Trump has pulled out of the TPP and is very critical of NAFTA. There is a fantastic opportunity for the UK, especially as Trump's companies have invested hundreds of £millions in Scotland.

 

The deal doesn't have to benefit both.  It has to benefit the one with the better hand.  The US.  That's why there are mutterings of the NHS being used as a pawn.

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8 hours ago, jakedee said:


How could believing that a country can be better run by residents of that country be termed as racism ? And you call me an idiot.

Of course it is. All Nationalism is exclusive and racist.....think about it then come back to me !

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3 hours ago, kilbowie2002 said:


UK could block any EU legislation it didnt agree with.

FFS! That's total nonsense.

Most legislation is subject to Qualified Majority Voting in the Council Ministers. Britain is the most out-voted Member State in the EU.

QMV has been expanded over the last 30 years greatly - in the Maastricht, Amsterdam, Nice and Lisbon Treaties.

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