Dons_1988 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: Again, disagree. They'll get what they voted for good and hard and continue blaming immigrants, but the idea it's chiefly Rupert Murdoch's fault and not their own is crap. We need to recognise a substantial chunk of British people are, always have been and always will be racist because they have thought about it and chosen to be racist. We'll agree to disagree. There are obviously people like that but it's unfair to write off 17/18 million people as such. I just don't believe things are so binary. They will get what they voted for though, as will we get what we didn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 While a lot of the shouting is done by folk that are over the top.. A film about Robert the Bruce shown at the Edinburgh festival, you'd think would be on show in Scotland in cineworld.A lot of folk trying a bit 'too hard' not to be nationalistic . Sent from my SM-G920F using TapatalkIm a nationalist but everything about that film looks shit, also cinemas have to run at a profit and not pander, thats why they only show films they think will make them a profit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Im a nationalist but everything about that film looks shit, also cinemas have to run at a profit and not pander, thats why they only show films they think will make them a profit. Didn't look amazing from the trailer I saw but neither did it look like a disaster. I'm not disagreeing with your point on profit. I was just surprised they thought it wouldn't turn a profit and of all places you'd expect it to be shown would be here. Cineworld are one of the main cinema companies in Scotland. I also think some people are trying ever so hard to appear pragmatic whether it's on catalonia or instinctively ridiculing anything about Scottish history. You want to create a new state based on national grounds. Own what you think. It can't be any worse than the Chris Pine take. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Didn't look amazing from the trailer I saw but neither did it look like a disaster. I'm not disagreeing with your point on profit. I was just surprised they thought it wouldn't turn a profit and of all places you'd expect it to be shown would be here. Cineworld are one of the main cinema companies in Scotland. I also think some people are trying ever so hard to appear pragmatic whether it's on catalonia or instinctively ridiculing anything about Scottish history. You want to create a new state based on national grounds. Own what you think. It can't be any worse than the Chris Pine take.As someone who’s studied history at university I think its unfair to say I ridicule Scottish history because im hostile towards film representations about Scottish historical figures. It looks like a shite film and Angus Mcfadyen appears to be an utter loon ball. Id much rather go and watch a film that was produced either wholly or partly in Scotland than one appealing to the nutters in the nationalist movement like Clerkin etc but hasn’t raised a single penny in revenue for Scotland in terms of its production. As a civic nationalist I want to create a state based on fairness and equality where the only qualification for citizenship (not subjectory) is a desire to contribute towards that nation, absolutely nothing to do with any historical notion of Scotland which would stretch all the way to Yorkshire etc and more to do with what Scotland could become than any teary eyed ‘freedom’ type nonsense taking us back to bannockburn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: As someone who’s studied history at university I think its unfair to say I ridicule Scottish history because im hostile towards film representations about Scottish historical figures. It looks like a shite film and Angus Mcfadyen appears to be an utter loon ball. Id much rather go and watch a film that was produced either wholly or partly in Scotland than one appealing to the nutters in the nationalist movement like Clerkin etc but hasn’t raised a single penny in revenue for Scotland in terms of its production. As a civic nationalist I want to create a state based on fairness and equality where the only qualification for citizenship (not subjectory) is a desire to contribute towards that nation, absolutely nothing to do with any historical notion of Scotland which would stretch all the way to Yorkshire etc and more to do with what Scotland could become than any teary eyed ‘freedom’ type nonsense taking us back to bannockburn. Quite. I wasn't really talking about you, per se. That's all well and good; and my desire too. It's still nationalism though. Call it what you want, civic or whatever . It's based on a border brought about by the history. Your polity might be better as a Central belt ministate. Why are you taking Perthshire with you. Because nation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Quite. I wasn't really talking about you, per se. That's all well and good; and my desire too. It's still nationalism though. Call it what you want, civic or whatever . It's based on a border brought about by the history. Your polity might be better as a Central belt ministate. Why are you taking Perthshire with you. Because nation.Given that it seems to be populated by tory fuckwits i’d be fine for it to remain an enclave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Im a nationalist but everything about that film looks shit, also cinemas have to run at a profit and not pander, thats why they only show films they think will make them a profit. £18,000 takings on its opening weekend. That’s £18,000 more than it would have without the Alt Nats, but still absolutely terrible for a film on opening weekend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 £18,000 takings on its opening weekend. That’s £18,000 more than it would have without the Alt Nats, but still absolutely terrible for a film on opening weekend. Yep utterly shite. Wonder what the production costs were. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Bath Boy knows best. https://twitter.com/WingsScotland/status/1146736761613291520 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 58 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Bath Boy knows best. https://twitter.com/WingsScotland/status/1146736761613291520 Wings is by all accounts now a mouth piece for Salmond, who is trying to achieve maximum damage before the shit truly hits the fan for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 “if we let them” [emoji23] what’s he going to do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, NotThePars said: “if we let them” what’s he going to do? Unleash the TERFS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I made it on Wings blocklist... thank f**k as it seems to drowned out most of the zoomers on the pro-indy side 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I made it on Wings blocklist... thank f**k as it seems to drowned out most of the zoomers on the pro-indy side [emoji23]Welcome to the club! My twitter handle was getting passed around the tinfoilhatnats telling people to block and report me because I disagreed with wings, these people are mentally ill. Im hoping for a split in the snp post indy with all the right wing transphobic arseholes going their own way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/live-fact-check-claim-scotland-eu-trade-brexit/ James O'Brien Live Fact-Checks Caller's Claim On Scottish EU Trading 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/live-fact-check-claim-scotland-eu-trade-brexit/ James O'Brien Live Fact-Checks Caller's Claim On Scottish EU Trading O'Brien always well worth listening to. LBC 10am - 1pm Mon to Fri. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Wonder what Scotland in yoonland goon that was getting ripped? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Unleash the TERFS. They’re going Tweet angrily like they’ve never Tweeted before! #prayforcineworld 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) https://wingsoverscotland.com/no-independence-day/ Campbell is up to something fishy He hits the nail on the head about Sturgeon and the salaried SNPers not being overly interested in Indyref2 but pretending he's just came to that conclusion is ridiculous. He looks to be moving early before the SNP/Indy movement splits if/when Indyref2 goes off the agenda. Edited July 4, 2019 by Detournement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I hope they did a Libdem and made the 35 way more than 9 times bigger than the 4Em, excuse me, if we’re discussing hilariously misrepresenting figure differentials in graph form, can we please only use the premier example in the art form: 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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