lichtgilphead Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, PB4U said: I'd rather as a proponent of Scottish independence, I'd prefer we had leaders at the helm of the Conservatives, and Labour parties that support Scotland's right to choose. Obviously you'd prefer otherwise. Fairly basic stuff. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 55 minutes ago, PB4U said: I'd rather as a proponent of Scottish independence, I'd prefer we had leaders at the helm of the Conservatives, and Labour parties that support Scotland's right to choose. Obviously you'd prefer otherwise. Fairly basic stuff. David Cameron gave people the right to choose and Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP have been seeking a way to ignore and overturn the results of BOTH referendums ever since. I know where the democratic deficit really is. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Malky3 said: David Cameron gave people the right to choose and Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP have been seeking a way to ignore and overturn the results of BOTH referendums ever since. I know where the democratic deficit really is. In a "Union of Equals" between two countries, one voted to brexit one overwhelmingly did not. Now one country is getting dragged out against the will of the majority of it's citizens, that is a democratic deficiency right there. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 In a "Union of Equals" between two countries, one voted to brexit one overwhelmingly did not. Now one country is getting dragged out against the will of the majority of it's citizens, that is a democratic deficiency right there. I mean, England has far more people than Scotland so it’s natural that it would have proportionally more influence.It’s exactly the same reason why Glasgow has more say in the Scottish Parliament than Orkney. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 In Scotlnd you have a choice, you are either pro Indy or you're a fanny Ftfy 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 CorrectThree vital facts for Yessers to remember:1. Civil disobedience, while a unionist majority remains, would make us look like cranks and win no friends.2. UDI, while a unionist majority remains, would be an undemocratic coup.3. A unionist majority remains. Change that. pic.twitter.com/Dw7oIoUtTu— Robert (@ClatchardCraig) January 15, 2020 I disagree. I think it depends on what exactly is being proposed and simply presuming that if you sit back and let it drag through the courts that people will bother to take notice is just as risky as any form of direct action.The specific event that I think demands some sort of confrontation is the Climate Conference in November as it’s in Glasgow and it’s held under the auspices of the UK government. If the Yes movement and/ or the SNP can’t make a big deal out of the UK hosting a conference on climate given its lackadaisical attitude to the impending climate crisis then I’m not sure what the point of any of this energy or enthusiasm is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Sorry if this offends anyone, but a headline from the Daily Express online. The article goes on to explain that this is based on a prediction from George Galloway!!!!!!!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Sorry if this offends anyone, but a headline from the Daily Express online. The article goes on to explain that this is based on a prediction from George Galloway!!!!!!!!!! Lol.... They've always loved Gorgeous George! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Sorry if this offends anyone, but a headline from the Daily Express online. The article goes on to explain that this is based on a prediction from George Galloway!!!!!!!!!!No idea where it went so wrong politically for a bloke from Dundee. Complete rocket. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 hours ago, dirty dingus said: In a "Union of Equals" between two countries, one voted to brexit one overwhelmingly did not. Now one country is getting dragged out against the will of the majority of it's citizens, that is a democratic deficiency right there. In this Union of Equals, every qualifying person had one vote in both referendums. The results went the way they did. However the Scottish Nationalists can't handle it when, within the Union, the rest of the us don't see things their way. Bad losers, bad citizens and really bad democrats. I'd never trust my kids future with them. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, Malky3 said: In this Union of Equals, every qualifying person had one vote in both referendums. The results went the way they did. However the Scottish Nationalists can't handle it when, within the Union, the rest of the us don't see things their way. Bad losers, bad citizens and really bad democrats. I'd never trust my kids future with them. You and your aliases aren't an us. Here is Mhairi to get you telt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Sorry if this offends anyone, but a headline from the Daily Express online. The article goes on to explain that this is based on a prediction from George Galloway!!!!!!!!!!They’re pure click bait and advertising revenue these days. I would be amazed if their online stuff wasn’t written by an algorithm these days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, dirty dingus said: You and your aliases aren't an us. Here is Mhairi to get you telt. Can't beat a bit of Mhairi Black to make most of Scotland cringe. In full windmill mode today I see. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Scottish Government could hold indyref2 WITHOUT Johnson's permissionhttps://www.thenational.scot/news/18166514.scottish-government-hold-indyref2-without-pms-permission/?ref=twtrecA QC speaks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: Scottish Government could hold indyref2 WITHOUT Johnson's permission https://www.thenational.scot/news/18166514.scottish-government-hold-indyref2-without-pms-permission/?ref=twtrec A QC speaks. ^^^Let's pay someone to tell us what we want to hear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: ^^^Let's pay someone to tell us what we want to hear Exactly. If they paid me £40k I'd come up with a statement that said there was good arguments for, but that if they did it would be challenged in court. What a waste of £40,000! If the nationalist movement want to pursue this further then there are going to be a lot of rich lawyers taking money off "poor Scots" who would have been better donating money to charity. Edited January 17, 2020 by Malky3 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 ^^^Let's pay someone to tell us what we want to hearI tend to agree. It’s not the route to go down in any case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 36 minutes ago, Malky3 said: Can't beat a bit of Mhairi Black to make most of Scotland cringe. In full windmill mode today I see. Did you watch it, she is talking about the EU 27 all countries of differnt sizes and populations but how any one could reject the brexit deal and all will support the country rejecting the deal. So an equal union not like the UK which is a Union in name only but morer a colony with its colonial masters to the south. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Malky3 said: Exactly. If they paid me £40k I'd come up with a statement that said there was good arguments for, but that if they did it would be challenged in court. What a waste of £40,000! Aye but it was a QC so he must be right... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, dirty dingus said: Did you watch it, she is talking about the EU 27 all countries of differnt sizes and populations but how any one could reject the brexit deal and all will support the country rejecting the deal. So an equal union not like the UK which is a Union in name only but morer a colony with its colonial masters to the south. Anyone who regards Scotland as a colony of England deserves to spend the rest of his days hand-washing my XXL boxer shorts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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