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13 minutes ago, Donathan said:

The boy Chung is a former Australian Open semi finalist so no mug although not sure if he’s got any grass court pedigree to speak of.

Only his third singles match since October 2020 and only appearance at Wimbledon was a 1st round loss.

Both Edmund and Chung were Australian Open semi-finalists in 2018 but expect the 5 year plan afterwards was a lot different to reality.

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2 hours ago, Florentine_Pogen said:

Sabalenka oot !! Made an absolute pigs erse of the last 3 games and Muchova punished the Belarussian beachmaster impersonator mercilessly.

Je suis heureux.

 

That's a bit harsh! 😅

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Mens semi finals today. Could be a generational changing of the guard match up first with Alcaraz playing Djokovic. The youngster is certainly the better player at the moment, but Djokovic is Djokovic and he's still more than capable of out competing him and beating him.  Ruud will be the favourite to make his second French open final in a row in the latter match.  Would be his third final in the last four majors, the Norwegian is becoming a super star.

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Epic first two sets in Djokovic and Alcaraz, and it was tied at 1-1. Then the youngster starts toiling physically and mentally in the second set and Novak wins it 6-1. Looking like a retirement from the Spaniard might be coming. Djokovic cool as a cucumber as always. 

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One sided blow out in the end. Alcaraz will be a great, but he isn’t yet. Looks like the record breaking number 23 slam will be along shortly for Novak.

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And Djokovic beats Casper Ruud in the final in straight sets to chalk up slam number 23, never in doubt. In terms of number of majors won he’s now out in front as the greatest of all time. 
That was another routine slam where he wasn’t really tested, dropped two sets all tournament and wasn’t taken to a fifth set once. Clay isn’t even his surface for goodness sake. 
Unless there’s a major upset I expect Wimbledon to be much the same.  He’s halfway to the grand slam and he could be on 25 by the end of the year. 30 slams well within reach, if he fancies it. Will it become hard for him to get motivated now he’s post history? Let’s hope so, get some competitiveness back in the game. 

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I’ve been watching the highlights of his matches this week at Surbiton and although he’s playing jobbers, his serve has been really good. 
 

He’s the top seed for Nottingham next week.

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3 hours ago, Lex said:

And Djokovic beats Casper Ruud in the final in straight sets to chalk up slam number 23, never in doubt. In terms of number of majors won he’s now out in front as the greatest of all time. 
That was another routine slam where he wasn’t really tested, dropped two sets all tournament and wasn’t taken to a fifth set once. Clay isn’t even his surface for goodness sake. 
Unless there’s a major upset I expect Wimbledon to be much the same.  He’s halfway to the grand slam and he could be on 25 by the end of the year. 30 slams well within reach, if he fancies it. Will it become hard for him to get motivated now he’s post history? Let’s hope so, get some competitiveness back in the game. 

The only thing I’d disagree with there is saying clay isn’t his surface.  Djokovic is a master of all surfaces and if it wasn’t for Nadal he’d have as many French Opens as he has Australian Opens.

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3 hours ago, Lex said:

And Djokovic beats Casper Ruud in the final in straight sets to chalk up slam number 23, never in doubt. In terms of number of majors won he’s now out in front as the greatest of all time. 
That was another routine slam where he wasn’t really tested, dropped two sets all tournament and wasn’t taken to a fifth set once. Clay isn’t even his surface for goodness sake. 
Unless there’s a major upset I expect Wimbledon to be much the same.  He’s halfway to the grand slam and he could be on 25 by the end of the year. 30 slams well within reach, if he fancies it. Will it become hard for him to get motivated now he’s post history? Let’s hope so, get some competitiveness back in the game. 

The thing I always find remarkable is that he so far only has 3 US Open titles. Obvious the DQ year he was the fav but given he's won 10 titles in Melbourne it's somewhat disproportionate 

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The only thing these younger guys lack is the experience of playing against the utter brilliance of Federer, Djokovic and Nadal.

Novak has 100 matches against fellow grand masters in which he has seen every point possible, every defensive shot possible, learned when to buckle down mentally, when to let points go, when to rack up the pressure.

Alcaraz, Rune and Ruud only learn this in matches against Novak.  Alcaraz thought he was going to take his Uber aggressive style and hit through him and Novak had the youngster cramping.  He is just phenomenal.

Andy Roddick famously said that Novak takes the opponents legs and then takes their soul.  No matter what metric you go by he is the GOAT.

 

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2 minutes ago, jaggyness said:

The thing I always find remarkable is that he so far only has 3 US Open titles. Obvious the DQ year he was the fav but given he's won 10 titles in Melbourne it's somewhat disproportionate 

It’s a bit of a quirk, US Open just seems a quicker surface and a rowdier crowd.  He’s lost six finals - Roger, Rafa (x2), Murray, Wawrinka and Medvedev.

He was injured in 2016 and had the easiest run to the final including two retirements and a walk over.  That’s the only Slam you could ever say Murray chucked it away.

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4 minutes ago, jaggyness said:

The thing I always find remarkable is that he so far only has 3 US Open titles. Obvious the DQ year he was the fav but given he's won 10 titles in Melbourne it's somewhat disproportionate 

Yeah but of a weird one that. He last won it in 2018. Since then he lost to Wawrinka in round 4 in 2019, the infamous DQ in 2020, surprisingly lost to Medvedev in the final in 2021 and got banned from entering the country for being an anti-vax nut in 2022.

He’ getting allowed back in for 2023 and he’ll be favourite again. I thought someone might beat him at the French, but given how easily he won that it’s hard to see how anyone stops him getting the grand slam this year. 

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For Andy Murray it's all about will he make the seedings at Wimbledon or not.  He negated the 150 points dropped from Stuttgart last year by winning Surbiton so only lost 25 points.  With a further 125 up in Nottingham this week with a similar strength field, he could be sitting in around 34, 35 before Queens starts.  With Nadal going down 122 ranking places from Monday that is one less person that would be in the seedings.  If he doesn't win Nottingham he will need a quarter final at least at Queens to make it.

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