Dons_1988 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I wonder if in another 3-4 years time this debate will still be raging on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I wonder if in another 3-4 years time this debate will still be raging on. More like 30 or 40 years, we'll still have the nutters campaigning to get titles stripped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 More like 30 or 40 years, we'll still have the nutters campaigning to get titles stripped. I do think there is a genuine debate to be had but this forum is not really providing it. Don't understand how everyone just goes round in round in circles with each other for a few years now. Too many deeply entrenched views to have a proper discussion about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BinoBalls Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I think for myself I think that's the problem right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortar Bored Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I do think there is a genuine debate to be had but this forum is not really providing it. Don't understand how everyone just goes round in round in circles with each other for a few years now. Too many deeply entrenched views to have a proper discussion about it. I'm in the same camp as you, truth and reconciliation is the way towards an end game, I, unlike most others, have a genuine sympathy towards the fans of The Rangers, not the ones who are full of bluster & Follow,Follow. They also paid their hard earned to watch a skewed playing field, a little remorse and humility would go a great distance towards removing my present feelings for the club at Ibrox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermonkey Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Does it matter if they issue an apology ?.....I think not. It's a new club anyway, despite what the blue bigots who infest ibrox say, and despite what the corrupt authorities say. Let the record books show 'void' next to the trophies the won and a 'defunct in 2012' next to rangers name. I mean...it's not as if this stuff didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 If we're going down the apology route I assume we will also get one from Celtic. Here are just some of the reasons: Crowing fans going on about their title success without any recognition of their overwhelming financial superiority. Complaining about a lack of competition whilst using said financial superiority to hoover up every promising player from other clubs; often to let said players whither on the bench. Dragging down the coefficient by being absolutely shite in Europe. Using all their means to dominate the game in Scotland whilst constantly claiming that they really want to play in the English leagues. Being Celtic. Just saying like.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 If they've cheated, and I genuinely believe they have, then their titles should be stripped a la Armstrong, Johnson, Green etc. I wouldn't give the titles to anyone else, but just have the records show "No title awarded" or *Rangers (found to have fielded ineligible players, or whatever the appropriate wording for their cheating is). An apology would help, but we're not going to get that, because that would be an admission of guilt, and they know the possible consequences of their admitting their guilt. Also, apologies tend to come from a position of humility and shame - not attributes I'd associate with either manifestation of the Ibrox-based team/club/company. Edited for poor spelling Spot on. Some humility and contrition would actually be welcome. In that sense, it would be accepted. It wouldn't make any difference to the need for title stripping though. That would still need to happen in order to publicly protect our game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 If we're going down the apology route I assume we will also get one from Celtic. Here are just some of the reasons: Crowing fans going on about their title success without any recognition of their overwhelming financial superiority. Complaining about a lack of competition whilst using said financial superiority to hoover up every promising player from other clubs; often to let said players whither on the bench. Dragging down the coefficient by being absolutely shite in Europe. Using all their means to dominate the game in Scotland whilst constantly claiming that they really want to play in the English leagues. Being Celtic. Just saying like.... Sorry Your turn, Sevco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Hahaha. Predictable answer. We had to lie to operate a legal scheme = cheating. Your logic is incredible but not surprising. Now, your own chairman has used film companies for tax relief....... You must live a pitiful life. It was the correct answer. Rangers had to lie to conceal a system that if exposed, could land them with a bill that would lead to their certain liquidation. Innocent, isolated registration errors are traditionally treated extremely seriously. This was deliberate and sustained. That's why titles need stripped. You'll note that I didn't need to use words like "cheating" or "illegal" in explaining this to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 If we're going down the apology route I assume we will also get one from Celtic. Here are just some of the reasons: Crowing fans going on about their title success without any recognition of their overwhelming financial superiority. Complaining about a lack of competition whilst using said financial superiority to hoover up every promising player from other clubs; often to let said players whither on the bench. Dragging down the coefficient by being absolutely shite in Europe. Using all their means to dominate the game in Scotland whilst constantly claiming that they really want to play in the English leagues. Being Celtic. Just saying like.... All true. Add in their pandering to the green brigade. Add in the fact that there is a bloody green brigade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Some jake from Stirling knows better than LNS... If it was Celtic then II doubt that anyone would be on the faux offended bandwagon. Celtic Celtic Celtic Celtic Celtic Celtic Celtic When did this become about Celtic?????? The term appears in nearly all your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 More like 30 or 40 years, we'll still have the nutters campaigning to get titles stripped. And the lookers on will be asking, 'Tell us, Grandad, who were these... Rangers?'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyman Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 More like 30 or 40 years, we'll still have the nutters campaigning to get titles stripped. Nah, just want you liquidated again with no chance of resurrection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Celtic Celtic Celtic Celtic Celtic Celtic Celtic When did this become about Celtic?????? The term appears in nearly all your posts. Take it up with bino balls as he brought them into it. You are all over the place tonight, lashing out and making a right kunt of yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 You are all over the place tonight, lashing out and making a right kunt of yourself. ^^^^^^^ ironing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the 67 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Take it up with bino balls as he brought them into it. You are all over the place tonight, lashing out and making a right kunt of yourself. "You seem to have an issue, and I've a fair idea as to what it is...and for your information I share this wifi connection" © benny/Vicky the viking who live in a B&B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyc13 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Celtic Celtic Celtic Celtic Celtic Celtic Celtic When did this become about Celtic?????? The term appears in nearly all your posts. It's the agenda the ***s are a pushing.. They didn't cheat or get liquidated, dodging tax, side letters is all normal practice, it's all Celtic being jealous and trying to get poor rangers and sevco in trouble... Everything Vicky says lately translates, It's all Celtics fault what happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Nope. They need to wear their sackcloth and ashes first. Thank you, Ian Paisley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugna Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Romeo, shouldn't there be a balancing poll for we Bears? Something like, "Would you admit your club's guilt and offer a sincere apology as a compromise towards burying the hatchet?" or some such? Seems reasonable, but it would be a brave Bear who would put such a poll in this section. Likely to take a hell of a beating from the hordes, on the numbers posting alone. Much more importantly, if I can go a bit T_K on you: "... for we..." -> "... for us..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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