Jambomo Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 I wouldn’t normally put fundraising stuff on here but this came in via some library channels, and given the circumstances I thought people might be interested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 6 minutes ago, Cheese said: Biggie is right in a way, politicians are a large part of the problem. Communist Starmer was banging on about deporting Bangladeshis just a few weeks ago. They are but blaming Blair and Brown is ridiculous when the Conservatives have been the ones in government for the majority of the period since Thatcher was elected. The biggest recent driver of this kind of politics was Brexit. It’s when the likes of Farage came to the fore to stir up a feeling of “other” towards the EU and heavily pointed to migrants as the problem in the UK, rather than the real reason which was decades of underinvestment and terrible planning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 28 minutes ago, accies1874 said: How has he done that? He’ll be away to ask Morrissey, since that’s where he gets all his other opinions from. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Hotel in Tamworth being attacked now and here is the local MP just a few days ago https://x.com/SarahEdwardsTam/status/1818240122103484735?t=3NXVfmzFSMYsLFu6mtTjwg&s=19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Do people who go trawling through someone’s posts dotting them all regardless of the content realise that they they don’t really have a leg to stand on with the “haha you care about coloured circles” patter? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 7 minutes ago, Jambomo said: They are but blaming Blair and Brown is ridiculous when the Conservatives have been the ones in government for the majority of the period since Thatcher was elected. The biggest recent driver of this kind of politics was Brexit. It’s when the likes of Farage came to the fore to stir up a feeling of “other” towards the EU and heavily pointed to migrants as the problem in the UK, rather than the real reason which was decades of underinvestment and terrible planning. I put something above about clueless white nationalists supporting economic policy which maximises migration. Brexit was a case in point, immigration into UK was bound to increase as a result of it. (Not the act of leaving the EU itself but the specific form of doing so, with the associated economics, which Farage et al were proposing). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 6 minutes ago, eez-eh said: Do people who go trawling through someone’s posts dotting them all regardless of the content realise that they they don’t really have a leg to stand on with the “haha you care about coloured circles” patter? They just want to run & tell mummy they won the internet, best to stick them on ignore. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus_Don Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 20 minutes ago, Jambomo said: I wouldn’t normally put fundraising stuff on here but this came in via some library channels, and given the circumstances I thought people might be interested. £10,000 already. Nice to see the best side of us in times like these. Maybe throw in a tenner myself 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Jambomo said: They are but blaming Blair and Brown is ridiculous when the Conservatives have been the ones in government for the majority of the period since Thatcher was elected. The biggest recent driver of this kind of politics was Brexit. It’s when the likes of Farage came to the fore to stir up a feeling of “other” towards the EU and heavily pointed to migrants as the problem in the UK, rather than the real reason which was decades of underinvestment and terrible planning. Brexit also meant that the majority of immigration now is non-EU. If someone's Polish or Lithuanian, you might not know you don't like them until you've heard them speak. If someone's Bangladeshi or Sri Lankan you don't need to wait that long. ETA - I mean, they could be British with Bangladeshi or Sri Lankan origin, but as social media keeps telling me, a dOG boRn IN a sTAblE doEsNT MAkE iT a hOrSe. Edited August 4 by carpetmonster 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 21 minutes ago, Jambomo said: They are but blaming Blair and Brown is ridiculous when the Conservatives have been the ones in government for the majority of the period since Thatcher was elected. Blair and Brown were key architects of the Iraq War and 'The War on Terror' though, huge drivers of Islamophobia and both continued and streamlined the Thatcherite consensus. They are both absolutely culpable alongside the rest of the political and media class. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 1 minute ago, Cheese said: Blair and Brown were key architects of the Iraq War and 'The War on Terror' though, huge drivers of Islamophobia and both continued and streamlined the Thatcherite consensus. They are both absolutely culpable alongside the rest of the political and media class. I was talking more about politicians openly using “others” (of any nationality) and claiming them to be the source of the problems here. It’s always been present a bit but Brexit was the most open display of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Labour have been in power for 13 of the last 45 years. Aye, it's all their fault. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcal Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Embarrassing one for this true patriot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Jambomo said: They are but blaming Blair and Brown is ridiculous when the Conservatives have been the ones in government for the majority of the period since Thatcher was elected. The biggest recent driver of this kind of politics was Brexit. It’s when the likes of Farage came to the fore to stir up a feeling of “other” towards the EU and heavily pointed to migrants as the problem in the UK, rather than the real reason which was decades of underinvestment and terrible planning. You might argue that the Iraq War was one of the major factors in the breakdown in trust between the government and the people. Also a lot of the anti Muslim rhetoric originates from that time. As does the rise of spin and conspiracy theories and let's not forget that Blair is responsible for hundreds of thousands of Muslim deaths and that his wars are to a great degree to blame for the refugee crisis that followed. Britain has been failed by generations of politicians of both parties. Edited August 4 by Ya Bezzer! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 33 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Hotel in Tamworth being attacked now and here is the local MP just a few days ago https://x.com/SarahEdwardsTam/status/1818240122103484735?t=3NXVfmzFSMYsLFu6mtTjwg&s=19 Why the f**k would residents 'want their hotel back'? C'mon love get the suitcases packed we are off on holiday two streets down. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 1 minute ago, Alert Mongoose said: Why the f**k would residents 'want their hotel back'? C'mon love get the suitcases packed we are off on holiday two streets down. Do people really go on holiday to Tamworth? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 4 hours ago, tongue_tied_danny said: That'll teach the Muslims... The c**t who is backheeling the window looks like he has never used soap in his life. I'm not sure why he's so desperate to get in there. This video has ruined Christmas for their Mums. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 3 minutes ago, AUcal said: Embarrassing one for this true patriot. The boy on the bike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Sasij rolls for are boys 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said: You might argue that the Iraq War was one of the major factors in the breakdown in trust between the government and the people. Also a lot of the anti Muslim rhetoric stems originates from that time. As does the rise of spin and conspiracy theories and let's not forget that Blair is responsible for hundreds of thousands of Muslim deaths and that his wars are to a great degree to blame for the refugee crisis that followed. Britain has been failed by generations of politicians of both parties. I agree with all of that, I am not suggesting they are innocent in creating this. As I said before, it’s more the outright racism of the likes of Farage and basically running a campaign based on hating other people, and saying they are the problem, that I was thinking of. Edited August 4 by Jambomo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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