Left Back Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said: Serious question. These agency workers drafted in to fill in for those striking. Where the tap dancing f**k are these agencies going to get available far less qualified staff from? They won’t. They’re playing to the gallery. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, Left Back said: So your comment was misleading and irrelevant as usual then. Glad we cleared that up. It was in response to someone saying that there's been no need for unions since the 1970s. The reason public sector workers don't have zero or average hours contracts is probably because they're still unionised. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: It was in response to someone saying that there's been no need for unions since the 1970s. The reason public sector workers don't have zero or average hours contracts is probably because they're still unionised. That’s not what he said at all but you bash on with your falsehoods. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Left Back said: That’s not what he said at all but you bash on with your falsehoods. It's exactly what he said. 4 hours ago, oaksoft said: It's not 1970 any more. We're not fighting for basic working rights now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: It's exactly what he said. Partial quote that doesn’t mention unions? Doesn’t prove your point does it? Go back and read the rest of it you moonhowler. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, Left Back said: Partial quote that doesn’t mention unions? Doesn’t prove your point does it? Go back and read the rest of it you moonhowler. Are you pished? 4 hours ago, oaksoft said: Can't speak for anyone else but when I used to be an employee many years ago, I used to ask for a pay-rise and if it was rejected I'd find a new job and get it that way. What I did NOT do was coerce my fellow colleagues to demand the same amount and to down tools if they didn't get it. Neither did I ask or expect others to fight my battles for me (the unions). I fought my own battles. As an adult should. It's not 1970 any more. We're not fighting for basic working rights now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Where did you teach that you only got a £ above minimum wage?Italy and Turkey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 15 hours ago, oaksoft said: Can't speak for anyone else but when I used to be an employee many years ago, I used to ask for a pay-rise and if it was rejected I'd find a new job and get it that way. What I did NOT do was coerce my fellow colleagues to demand the same amount and to down tools if they didn't get it. Neither did I ask or expect others to fight my battles for me (the unions). I fought my own battles. As an adult should. It's not 1970 any more. We're not fighting for basic working rights now. We will be shortly. (Not me, obviously.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 13 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: 16 hours ago, 19QOS19 said: The usual suspects moaning about workers having the audacity to ask for more - I assume these same people are content with their wages and wouldn't dream of asking for a wage rise? You mean the failed History teacher? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 11 hours ago, DiegoDiego said: 11 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Where did you teach that you only got a £ above minimum wage? Italy and Turkey. Is that the going rate for qualified teachers in those countries? Seems low, particularly Italy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Is that the going rate for qualified teachers in those countries? Seems low, particularly Italy.I was effectively freelancing for a private company but they'd send me to state schools. My hourly rate was less than factory workers got. I really liked the job but the hours (they have school on Saturdays!), pay and management were shite. In Turkey it was a decent wage by local standards but you didn't get many hours, sometimes you had a three hour round trip for two hours of work, and the value of the lira was plummeting. Plus the management were shite. I might go back to it in a few years' time, but not when I'm relying on it to put food on the table. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, oaksoft said: How sure are you that petrol stations are being greedy in the first place? Petrol station reveals how much they earn from £100 of fuel after customer row (msn.com) I don't think the majority are, the same as I don't think workers trying to protect their real income are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 How sure are you that petrol stations are being greedy in the first place? Petrol station reveals how much they earn from £100 of fuel after customer row (msn.com)My sister was a franchisee around 15 years ago for Shell - the fuel income was peanuts - she relied almost entirely on shop sales for her profit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 https://apply.scotrail.co.uk/vacancies/1316/Conductor vacancies in Salt 'n Sauce City for anyone wishing to get their foot in the door of the greedy railway workers. [emoji2] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 13 hours ago, H Wragg said: https://apply.scotrail.co.uk/vacancies/1316/ Conductor vacancies in Salt 'n Sauce City for anyone wishing to get their foot in the door of the greedy railway workers. Could be time to get the pink wheelchair out! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty It Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 So a normal week for Scotrail then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 What's my chances of getting a train on Sunday?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 23 minutes ago, RH33 said: What's my chances of getting a train on Sunday?! 5% 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 25 minutes ago, RH33 said: What's my chances of getting a train on Sunday?! Much the same as your chances right now as the strikes aren't affecting services on a Sunday. Whether that temporary timetable is still in place however is another thing... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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