Detournement Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, MixuFruit said: Specifically, even if in doing so it causes conflict with existing social structures of Uighurs? If the purpose is to change the social structures then that is inevitable. I do think the conflict is overstated though eg. Uighurs are still clearly free to worship as evidenced by the number of mosques. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, Detournement said: No one is saying China is perfect or flawless just that they should be subject to the same judgements and standards as Western nations were/are in their economic development. But the two outcomes of that line of thought I can see are either China should be criticised for this, or that western nations should not, because after all they were at a different point in their economic development. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: But the two outcomes of that line of thought I can see are either China should be criticised for this, or that western nations should not, because after all they were at a different point in their economic development. The switch from a feudal style system to capitalism is always going to cause disruption it's inevitable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Detournement said: The switch from a feudal style system to capitalism is always going to cause disruption it's inevitable. You're right, but when you say that you should apply the same standards then you should apply the same standards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 I'm loathe to reply to you but that is nonsense. There are many liberals and hard right wingers who believe that the Chinese state shouldn't exist in its current form because of its actions in Xianjing but would never apply the same standards to the British, American and French states which have done far, far worse around the world. Of course there are but there are folk with garbage opinions about everything it's possible to disagree on. Why that means you should stick up for China's behaviour regarding this issue is beyond me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) Credit where credit is due to Detournement, it must take a tremendous amount of time and effort to churn out post after post of pseudo intellectual rubbish on such a consistent basis Edited January 9, 2021 by yoda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, yoda said: Credit where credit is due to Detournement, it must take a tremendous amount of time and effort to churn out post after post of pseudo intellectual rubbish on such a consistent basis It's easy M8 you just read a few books. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, yoda said: Credit where credit is due to Detournement, it must take a tremendous amount of time and effort to churn out post after post of pseudo intellectual rubbish on such a consistent basis Back the fash seems to be the running theme. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: You're right, but when you say that you should apply the same standards then you should apply the same standards. I don't think that what is going on in Xianjing is comparable to British oppression in Ireland or American genocide of native peoples so I am applying the same standards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Detournement said: I don't think that what is going on in Xianjing is comparable to British oppression in Ireland or American genocide of native peoples so I am applying the same standards. And that's the impasse I suppose 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 It's easy M8 you just cut and paste from a few books. FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 That's the IndyRef2 thread locked - I assume because of the 2 fruitloops. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: That's the IndyRef2 thread locked - I assume because of the 2 fruitloops. Hopefully just tidying up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 True heads cancelled China in July 1971 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share Posted January 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: That's the IndyRef2 thread locked - I assume because of the 2 fruitloops. Hopefully temporarily; and permanent bans for certain posters. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 I'd just like to say that every time I see the phrase "An Innocent Man" used so earnestly I picture this: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Was the stuff on the indy ref thread really that bad ? It's just pep howling at the moon and being incredibly angry as per. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: I'd just like to say that every time I see the phrase "An Innocent Man" used so earnestly I picture this: Aye I thought the same thing, I wanted to try and photoshop it but could never be arsed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: Didn't know this. Yup. They ended up with competing cable tv companies laying fibre down either side of the same street, and of course nothing outside the cities. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 19 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Hopefully temporarily; and permanent bans for certain posters. I do wonder what Pepp has to do to get emptied given that PB gets launched for next to nothing in comparison. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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