General Politics Thread

[jmothecat]

Labour in 95 won 47% of the vote, Labour on Thursday won a projected share of 31%. We actually lost councillors. The argument from the Corbyn supporters is little more than 'we didn't do as badly as people thought we might'. This along with finishing third in Scotland and losing ground in Wales show a pretty poor performance. The only positive from Thursday was winning in London, and that came from Sadiq Khan basically completely going against the Corbynista tactics of only chasing the core vote and he actually tried to win votes from everywhere.

I understand the temptation to spin things to make them look better, but to try to spin this into an endorsement for Corbyn is quite something.

Edited May 8, 2016 by jmothecat

[Thumper]

The only positive from Thursday was winning in London, and that came from Sadiq Khan basically completely going against the Corbynista tactics of only chasing the core vote and he actually tried to win votes from everywhere.

 

Which was utterly opposed by the PLP, who literally supported Goldsmith.

[Ad Lib]

The Parliamentary Labour Party did not "support Goldsmith".

Honestly have a word with yourself.

[jmothecat]

Which was utterly opposed by the PLP, who literally supported Goldsmith.

The PLP didn't support Goldsmith.

[Thumper]

The Parliamentary Labour Party did not "support Goldsmith".

 

They spent the entire campaign briefing against the leadership and trying to neuter Goldsmith's flagrantly racist campaign by insinuating that their own candidate's was anti-Semitic by association. Literally.

 

John Mann would have been vastly, vastly happier if Goldsmith had won.

[jmothecat]

They spent the entire campaign briefing against the leadership and trying to neuter Goldsmith's flagrantly racist campaign by insinuating that their own candidate's was anti-Semitic by association. Literally.

John Mann would have been vastly, vastly happier if Goldsmith had won.

What has John Mann said that implies he supported Goldsmith? He's been nothing but complimentary to Khan as far as I can see.

[Mr Bairn]

They spent the entire campaign briefing against the leadership and trying to neuter Goldsmith's flagrantly racist campaign by insinuating that their own candidate's was anti-Semitic by association. Literally.

 

John Mann would have been vastly, vastly happier if Goldsmith had won.

 

 

I suppose you're going to provide evidence of any racist comments made by Zac Goldsmith

[THE KING]

I suppose you're going to provide evidence of any racist comments made by Zac Goldsmith

It was a repulsive racist islamaphobic campaign even his own sister said as much.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/07/zac-goldsmith-racist-campaign-london

Cop this shit

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3567537/On-Thursday-really-going-hand-world-s-greatest-city-Labour-party-thinks-terrorists-friends-passionate-plea-ZAC-GOLDSMITH-four-days-Mayoral-election.html

the headline from an article featuring pictures of the 7/7 attacks in London.

On Thursday, are we really going to hand the world's greatest city to a Labour party that thinks terrorists is its friends? A passionate plea from ZAC GOLDSMITH four days before Mayoral election

Edited May 8, 2016 by THE KING

[NotThePars]

Mr Bairn's at it btw.

[welshbairn]

It was a repulsive racist islamaphobic campaign even his own sister said as much.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/07/zac-goldsmith-racist-campaign-london

Cop this shit

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3567537/On-Thursday-really-going-hand-world-s-greatest-city-Labour-party-thinks-terrorists-friends-passionate-plea-ZAC-GOLDSMITH-four-days-Mayoral-election.html

the headline from an article featuring pictures of the 7/7 attacks in London.

On Thursday, are we really going to hand the world's greatest city to a Labour party that thinks terrorists is its friends? A passionate plea from ZAC GOLDSMITH four days before Mayoral election

The Financial Times has an article saying the same thing, Londoners were asked to vote on a racial/religious basis and responded by telling Zak and the Tories to fucking right off. Wish I could say the same for the Welsh.

[Carl Cort's Hamstring]

It was a repulsive racist islamaphobic campaign even his own sister said as much.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/07/zac-goldsmith-racist-campaign-london

Cop this shit

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3567537/On-Thursday-really-going-hand-world-s-greatest-city-Labour-party-thinks-terrorists-friends-passionate-plea-ZAC-GOLDSMITH-four-days-Mayoral-election.html

the headline from an article featuring pictures of the 7/7 attacks in London.

On Thursday, are we really going to hand the world's greatest city to a Labour party that thinks terrorists is its friends? A passionate plea from ZAC GOLDSMITH four days before Mayoral election

 

It's got much less attention, but Goldsmiths team also sent targeted leaflets to everyone in London called Singh, on the assumption that they'd be Sikh (which many aren't).

 

http://www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/news/politics/outrage_as_zac_goldsmith_sends_patronising_leaflets_to_redbridge_s_indian_communities_1_4477188

 

Perhaps he fancies a career at Stormont with all this religious rabble-rousing.

[Mr Bairn]

Didn't think this deserved it's own thread but Lincoln uni have sensationally quit the NUS over their alleged anti-semitism and ISIS support.

 

Exeter and Newcastle are the next universities to decide whether to resign from the movement. Further anti-NUS motions could set off a tidal wave of rejection of the NUS ahead of next week's key referendums in Oxford and Cambridge.

 

Nearly all universities in the UK are NUS members although three of Scotland's universites (Dundee, Glasgow and St Andrews) are not members and thus all money raised by those unions can be spent investing in campaigns and events on their own campus (It costs tens of thousands of pounds to join the NUS). There is talk of an NUS referendum at Edinburgh.

[Bishop Briggs]

 

Nearly all universities in the UK are NUS members although three of Scotland's universites (Dundee, Glasgow and St Andrews) are not members and thus all money raised by those unions can be spent investing in campaigns and events on their own campus (It costs tens of thousands of pounds to join the NUS). There is talk of an NUS referendum at Edinburgh.

 

I have a sense of deja vu. Edinburgh, Heriot Watt, Strathclyde, Dundee and St Andrews all disaffiliated from the NUS in the 1980s. Edinburgh and Strathclyde rejoined.

 

I don't think that Glasgow has ever been in. Charles Kennedy, then President, fought hard to keep the Glasgow Men's Union out. The women joined the Queen Margaret Union. Kennedy also opposed letting women in the Men's Union beer bar. 

[Mr Bairn]

I have a sense of deja vu. Edinburgh, Heriot Watt, Strathclyde, Dundee and St Andrews all disaffiliated from the NUS in the 1980s. Edinburgh and Strathclyde rejoined.

 

I don't think that Glasgow has ever been in. Charles Kennedy, then President, fought hard to keep the Glasgow Men's Union out. The women joined the Queen Margaret Union. Kennedy also opposed letting women in the Men's Union beer bar. 

 

Heriot Watt is back in, many friends of mine study there. There was a Tory activist last year tried to organise a referendum only for the SU to expel him in a bitter row. Same guy is very high up in the local leave the EU campaign.

[WaffenThinMint]

I have a sense of deja vu. Edinburgh, Heriot Watt, Strathclyde, Dundee and St Andrews all disaffiliated from the NUS in the 1980s. Edinburgh and Strathclyde rejoined.

 

I don't think that Glasgow has ever been in. Charles Kennedy, then President, fought hard to keep the Glasgow Men's Union out. The women joined the Queen Margaret Union. Kennedy also opposed letting women in the Men's Union beer bar. 

 

Glasgow University has long opposed the NUS because of its lack of regard for freedom of speech & tendencies to turn a blind eye/give the wink to bare faced thuggery by spoilt rich kids pretending to be Trots. For that they were derided as being Tories - ironically Glasgow Uni was one of the few places the Revolutionary Communist Party - they of Living Marxism fame - could organise in peace without intimidation from their competitors.

 

It was a real brasser for the Scottish NUS that they had to get Glasgow Uni SRC to show them how to run an effective anti-poll tax campaign & Strathtech's Uni Union building had to get advice from the QMU & GUU how to get itself back in the black (it turned out the company they were getting all their supplies from was ripping them off big time, but that's another very long tale). Needless to say, when the GUSRC subsequently ran a vote on campus trying to get the students to agree to join the NUS, it was a massive defeat.

 

It used to be the QMU was the women's union and GUU the men's (the opposite sex in both cases had to be signed in by another as a guest during the evenings), but the QMU abandoned that in the 80s with the GUU following suit years later, the latter appearing on TV in a cringeworthy moment as the BBC cameras arrived late, so instead of filming the QMU president being "honoured" with drinking the first pint by a female in the beer bar, viewers saw her & members of both uni unions pissed as c***s. The GU Senate was not amused.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Glasgow University has long opposed the NUS because of its lack of regard for freedom of speech & tendencies to turn a blind eye/give the wink to bare faced thuggery by spoilt rich kids pretending to be Trots. For that they were derided as being Tories - ironically Glasgow Uni was one of the few places the Revolutionary Communist Party - they of Living Marxism fame - could organise in peace without intimidation from their competitors.

It was a real brasser for the Scottish NUS that they had to get Glasgow Uni SRC to show them how to run an effective anti-poll tax campaign & Strathtech's Uni Union building had to get advice from the QMU & GUU how to get itself back in the black (it turned out the company they were getting all their supplies from was ripping them off big time, but that's another very long tale). Needless to say, when the GUSRC subsequently ran a vote on campus trying to get the students to agree to join the NUS, it was a massive defeat.

It used to be the QMU was the women's union and GUU the men's (the opposite sex in both cases had to be signed in by another as a guest during the evenings), but the QMU abandoned that in the 80s with the GUU following suit years later, the latter appearing on TV in a cringeworthy moment as the BBC cameras arrived late, so instead of filming the QMU president being "honoured" with drinking the first pint by a female in the beer bar, viewers saw her & members of both uni unions pissed as c***s. The GU Senate was not amused.

There are so many inaccuracies in that post I don't know where to begin.

[Mr Bairn]

There are so many inaccuracies in that post I don't know where to begin.

 

 

Almost goes without saying given that the post was penned by WaferThinMinter

[Mr. Brightside]

David Cameron calling other countries "fantastically corrupt" without a hint of irony in sight. What a cockwomble.

[Ad Lib]

David Cameron calling other countries "fantastically corrupt" without a hint of irony in sight. What a cockwomble.

This was a classic case of a politician getting into trouble for telling the truth.

Nigeria and Afghanistan are fantastically corrupt countries.

[Shades75]

This was a classic case of a politician getting into trouble for telling the truth.

Nigeria and Afghanistan are fantastically corrupt countries.

It wouldn't matter if it was lies. For you, that's allowed anyway.