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[Virtual Insanity]

Explains a lot. 

[The Thistle Archive]

And so we come to the 'home run' of our ambitious quest to document the entire history of the Partick Thistle reserves. Per below, we're very pleased to be introducing the latest 11 seasons of reserve team matches, from the mid 00s to date, complete with a tremendous number of potted match reports wherever it's been possible. In the final league seasons, Thistle fielded very strong teams in the tough environment of the SPFL Development League, and boys like Lindsay, Penrice, Nisbet and Fitzpatrick went on to become top players. Since the final league season (2018-19) the 'reserves' matches have become a bit of a farce, usually mis-matches played away. Matches have been played in 143 of the 149 seasons of Partick Thistle FC - it's all here, the good, the indifferent and the ugly… enjoy!

Tribute should be paid to the club’s Honorary President Robert Reid for the hundreds of reserve match reports published in the club’s programmes over the seasons. The small band of unknown contributors who took on the task more recently deserve a mention too. Their combined labours have formed the basis of many of the potted reports of matches that would otherwise have gone unreported.

Take a bow Mr Jack Little of The Thistle Archive, going on 10 years of hard graft in here! 

1875-76 1876-77 1877-78 1878-79 1879-80 1880-81 1881-82 1882-83 1883-84 1884-85 1885-86 1886-87 1887-88 1888-89 1889-90 1890-91 1891-92 1892-93 1893-94 1894-95 1895-96 1896-97 1897-98 1898-99 1899-00 1900-01 1901-02 1902-03 1903-04 1904-05 1905-06 1906-07 1907-08 1908-09 1909-10 1910-11 1911-12 1912-13 1913-14 1914-15 1915-16 1916-17 1917-18 1918-19 1919-20 1920-21 1921-22 1922-23 1923-24 1924-25 1925-26 1926-27 1927-28 1928-29 1929-30 1930-31 1931-32 1932-33 1933-34 1934-35 1935-36 1936-37 1937-38 1938-39 1939-40 1940-41 1941-42 1942-43 1943-44 1944-45 1945-46 1946-47 1947-48 1948-49 1949-50 1950-51 1951-52 1952-53 1953-54 1954-55 1955-56 1956-57 1957-58 1958-59 1959-60 1960-61 1961-62 1962-63 1963-64 1964-65 1965-66 1966-67 1967-68 1968-69 1969-70 1970-71 1971-72 1972-73 1973-74 1974-75 1975-76 1976-77 1977-78 1978-79 1979-80 1980-81 1981-82 1982-83 1983-84 1984-85 1985-86 1986-87 1987-88 1988-89 1989-90 1990-91 1991-92 1992-93 1993-94 1994-95 1995-96 1996-97 1997-98 1998-99 1999-00 2000-01 2001-02 2002-03 2003-04 2004-05 2005-06 2006-07 2007-08 2008-09 2009-10 2010-11 2011-12 2012-13 2013-14 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19 2019-20 2020-21 2021-22 2022-23 2023-24

[Fuctifano]

Good to see, backs up my theory that we don't give a toss about reserve games. 

It's about to be 2024 and we've won one reserve game in the 2020s.

[Maine]

Just a quick thought I had last night and I don’t know if anyone can be arsed to do the stats or anything.

Are we better off playing a CB at LB over an attacking full back.
When Harry Milne got injured at the tail end of last season shifting Holt out to left back seemed to give us a bit more security and we went on a bit of a run.

I do love an attacking in form Harry Milne and if him and Fitz could form the same partnership as Lawless/McMillan it could be deadly. However, I felt like having Wasiri cover that position the last few games we weren’t shipping as many goals. Maybe our formation and the way Doolan wants to play doesn’t suit two forward thinking full backs.

[Fuctifano]

Said similar in match thread 

18 hours ago, Fuctifano said:

I'd say it's more of a hole in the midfield. We've got two attacking full backs so need either a third centre half or a proper defensive midfielder. 

Maybe worth noting that our good run at the end of last season came when Milne was injured and Holt was at LB. While he was still a goal threat he wasn't bombing on as much as Milne and we were more solid, it freed Fitz up a bit more as well. 

I'm not saying we should drop Milne for Williams but against the two teams above us in the league and Hearts in the cup we've conceded 13 goals in 4 games so while we'll probably be around the playoffs we're a long way off the next level at the moment 

 

[AMMjag]

58 minutes ago, Maine said:

Just a quick thought I had last night and I don’t know if anyone can be arsed to do the stats or anything.

Are we better off playing a CB at LB over an attacking full back.
When Harry Milne got injured at the tail end of last season shifting Holt out to left back seemed to give us a bit more security and we went on a bit of a run.

I do love an attacking in form Harry Milne and if him and Fitz could form the same partnership as Lawless/McMillan it could be deadly. However, I felt like having Wasiri cover that position the last few games we weren’t shipping as many goals. Maybe our formation and the way Doolan wants to play doesn’t suit two forward thinking full backs.

On his current rate of improvement, Wasiri is just about ready to be cutting inside and fucking goals in from 30 yards, a la Phillip Lahm at the 2006 WC.

With a near fully fit squad, we could also have the option of playing a back 5. It might not suit Lawless and Fitzpatrick starting in the same team, but could allow us to cover more areas of the pitch and I could see Williams being capable of stepping into DM to allow us to rotate between formations when needed.

[Thistle_do_nicely]

52 minutes ago, AMMjag said:

On his current rate of improvement, Wasiri is just about ready to be cutting inside and fucking goals in from 30 yards, a la Phillip Lahm at the 2006 WC.

With a near fully fit squad, we could also have the option of playing a back 5. It might not suit Lawless and Fitzpatrick starting in the same team, but could allow us to cover more areas of the pitch and I could see Williams being capable of stepping into DM to allow us to rotate between formations when needed.

Had seen Fuctifano's post and wondered similar, we definitely went to a back 5 against Airdrie and saw that game out and doolan has done similar against Ayr Utd.

Theres problems with however we line up at the moment but in theory -

Gk: Sneddon/Mitchell

Rwb - McMillan

Rcb - Neilson

Cb - Aero

Lcb - Williams

Lwb - Milne

Rm - Fitzpatrick/Lawless?

Cm - Bannigan/Stanway?

Cm - Mcinroy? Stanway?

Lm - Fitzpatrick/Lawless?

Fw - Graham? Adeloye? Diack? Robinson?

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A few problems with it, but when we've put together a big squad then we probably ought to do the odd bit of tinkering match to match.

if its Graham then a more orthodox left footer down the left (Lawless), right footer down the right (Fitzy) miiiight work as McInroy can try to get into the box along with the other wide player (Fitzpatrick scored a nice wee header recently) and McMillan/Milne love getting forward, so we're giving Graham crosses to work with, but he'd very likely end up isolated up front. In midfield, idk what central two would be best, but thats a problem we have until January anyway.

On the plus sides, Neilson is good enough at bringing the ball out from the back in possesion, it gives us an extra centre back to help defend/attack set pieces, our midfield often ends up with big gaps anyway so might as well have an extra defender there... Williams is increasingly composed/confident on the ball too.

Idk. Tbf its already covered on here that an extra midfielder is a priority to win tackles to sign soon anyway.

Would assume McDonald will be away to free up a wage.

Edited December 9, 2023 by Thistle_do_nicely

[JagsCG]

Doolan spoke about Neilson being able to play in the CDM role, so if we signed a CB (idk if McGinley is good enough or not tbf) worth coming in for Neilson without a substantial drop off in quality in the defence, he could drop into the midfield without the need to shift to a back 3. For the stick Doolan might (rightly) get from time to time for being quite rigid with the 4-2-3-1, I think it mostly works well and suits the players we have. 

[jagfox]

I would not be adverse to seeing a straight swap between Aero and Williams right now.

[cilitbang]

January can't come quick enough, Friday night was frustrating.

There's a massive CDM shaped hole in the squad, game was far too open with too many breaks on us not broken up. Followed by that, a GK that doesn't throw a goal in half the time... Can say it's unfair to compare to Cerny, but he was the last really good GK we had for me, so that's my standard. If he was in net vs Raith then we win that game.

[third lanark]

1 hour ago, cilitbang said:

January can't come quick enough, Friday night was frustrating.

There's a massive CDM shaped hole in the squad, game was far too open with too many breaks on us not broken up. Followed by that, a GK that doesn't throw a goal in half the time... Can say it's unfair to compare to Cerny, but he was the last really good GK we had for me, so that's my standard. If he was in net vs Raith then we win that game.

While Mitchell is certainly not the same standard as Cerny, in my opinion he is better than Sneddon who for me has not kicked on anywhere near as much as I had hoped in the 6 years with us.

we may not have won the game but I don’t think Mitchell would have conceded those goals 

[baba douche]

6 hours ago, third lanark said:

While Mitchell is certainly not the same standard as Cerny, in my opinion he is better than Sneddon who for me has not kicked on anywhere near as much as I had hoped in the 6 years with us.

we may not have won the game but I don’t think Mitchell would have conceded those goals 

I remember Mitchell making his fair share of howlers, costing us goals and points.

[Mediocre Pundit]

I can understand Sneddon’s mistake for the first goal. But he made two great saves in the first half too. 
 

Poor kick for the second but great strike, and don’t think he’s at fault for the third or fourth - the old ‘near post’ argument is a nonsense when a shot is reversed as well as their third was. 
 

I’m not convinced Mitchell is any better - would just make different errors and different saves. Swings and roundabouts. 

[third lanark]

2 hours ago, baba douche said:

I remember Mitchell making his fair share of howlers, costing us goals and points.

I remember Mitchell making howlers against Queen’s Park and Dundee, there maybe others and he’s far from perfect , but he doesn’t in my opinion make as many as Sneddon who seems to make one every 5 games or so roughly from what I’ve seen

[baba douche]

4 minutes ago, third lanark said:

I remember Mitchell making howlers against Queen’s Park and Dundee, there maybe others and he’s far from perfect , but he doesn’t in my opinion make as many as Sneddon who seems to make one every 5 games or so roughly from what I’ve seen

Fair enough, I think Sneddons a bit better personally, but I don't think there's not enough of a difference to be 100% on either side, and that's the actual issue - no definite No 1

[Fuctifano]

On 07/12/2023 at 09:55, Fuctifano said:

Good to see, backs up my theory that we don't give a toss about reserve games. 

It's about to be 2024 and we've won one reserve game in the 2020s.

Hamilton - 2.75 goals on Asian handicap was 5/6

[0neTeamInGlasgow]

14 hours ago, Fuctifano said:

Hamilton - 2.75 goals on Asian handicap was 5/6

Guess we have no decent players coming through then oofft

[Fuctifano]

Starting to get to the time when we can think about January window moves. 

Mcdonald hasn't even made the bench last couple of games and not sure he's injured, he'd be the most obvious candidate for a "mutually consented"

Williamson and Mcginley's loans are up at some point in January. There was a post on here which said Williamson has signed a pre contract but he's at best 5th choice centre mid at the moment so it would seem a bit strange.

Obviously impossible to judge McGinley given he hasn't played. 

We definitely need a holding midfielder and probably another winger regardless of whether Mcdonald goes. 

 

[oneteaminglasgow]

22 hours ago, Fuctifano said:

 We definitely need a holding midfielder and probably another winger regardless of whether Mcdonald goes. 

If we are able to get another winger, I would quite like MacKenzie to go out on loan to play consistently. He comes on and shows flashes of ability, but he needs to work on actually impacting the game with it, which obviously isn’t easy when he’s only getting 15 minutes here and there.

I wouldn’t be sorry to see McDonald go. I’m sure he’s a nice guy but it just hasn’t worked out. 

[BigMadMental]

I hope I am wrong but I have a feeling we won’t make much of a move in January.

Have only heard rumours of Logan Chalmers and Lee Ashcroft.

presumably the Chalmers signing would be a PCA with option to take on loan immediately, similar to what happened with Rudden/Dundee.

However also heard as of Friday nothing was moving, but perhaps early doors yet.

I actually think Kyle Turner on loan before the end of January is not out of the question.