Doctor Manhattan Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Kapowzer said: Also, for the boys who need it for the w**k bank: I get the worrying feeling that that might be HIS cum face! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Lamie and Mugabi were two players that very few fans would've wanted near the starting lineup when Alexander came in, but he seems to have turned them into pretty competent defenders. Love him or hate him as a manager he was obviously a half decent defender as a player, I don't think it would be beyond comprehension that he helps Sol and Ojala find another level this season. I'm not expecting it, but it'd be nice.Harsh as it may sound as he definitely did us a turn last season and was much improved from when he first joined but, a lot of the time, it struck me that Lamie simply seemed to be the least worst option.We know what Lamie is capable of at both ends of the spectrum. At his very best he's nothing more than a serviceable defender at our level and at his worst he's a complete bombscare. He showed enough last season to the extent that I'm happy enough we're keeping him around but I'll start to get slightly worried if it seems we're going into the season having him as a first choice defender. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said: Harsh as it may sound as he definitely did us a turn last season and was much improved from when he first joined but, a lot of the time, it struck me that Lamie simply seemed to be the least worst option. We know what Lamie is capable of at both ends of the spectrum. At his very best he's nothing more than a serviceable defender at our level and at his worst he's a complete bombscare. He showed enough last season to the extent that I'm happy enough we're keeping him around but I'll start to get slightly worried if it seems we're going into the season having him as a first choice defender. I seem to be in the minority in thinking Lamie is more than a serviceable defender. After a shaky start, I'd say he's proved himself as first choice. There isn't a defender in our budget who doesn't have a mistake in them, and he's no exception but there were plenty of games where he looked absolutely solid. Mind you, our defensive record was absolutely shite last year so maybe my eyes have deceived me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegsjoe_mfc Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 There’s a part of me that would be more worried about this season if Alexander did have the same budget / squad size as I think having lots of options last season had Alexander tying himself in knots finding his best team. I think a lot of the problems in the team stemmed from the unsettled nature of the team. Granted, there are certain players in the squad who aren’t ideal to have on the books for next season, but at least we’ve more chance of finding a rhythm in the team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliphas Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 I don't believe anything Alexander says to the press at all. He loves keeping stuff close to his chest. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 If you're under the impression that Nathan McGinley won't be playing a minimum of 25 to 30 games for us next season then you've only yourself to blame when you're disappointed. I'd also be hugely surprised if we're aiming for the "quality" market ahead of the "educated punts" market this summer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Ha yeah, I know there is a very strong possibility of that and I still don't understand his perseverance with him especially as a former defender himself. There is hope as he played Lamie & SOD there that penny has dropped with Carroll at least. My rage on a matchday can only cope with one bottle merchant on the park at a time so the idea of a Goss & McGinley combo gives me the seethe already. As for the second point, I don't see why we shouldn't. The 9 players off the payroll easily cover Spittal, AN Other and a few punts if squad reduction is what is on the cards. The UEFA & SPFL money should open up the quality. I don't know what to make of it Alexander is always cagey AF but he can't look at that team with the record since January and not think that he needs to get at least 4 decent acquisitions this summer otherwise I think he knows the fans (if not the board) was be baying for him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welldaft Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Well we have got Jubillee coming to Fir Park and we have signed two female players the past week…. Meanwhile Hibs and Aberdeen seem to signing one player a day or in the case of the Dons several players today. No need to panic yet and we can always take solace in the apparent truth that GA thinks McGinley is one of the best defenders in the top flight….yeah I know. Been very quiet the social media team. Are the players back for pre season yet ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 14 hours ago, thisGRAEME said: Bevis as well, and fair play. I see he's in Venice now. Absolutely fair play to him. He looks like he's having a lovely time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marinello Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Seeing some speculation that Turnbull may be off to West Ham . 11 million being mentioned. What part of the sell on are we due? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 I heard that earlier but didn't see anything online coming up so assumed it would be pish. Remember if we have a sell-on clause it's likely only to be on the profit over and above what we sold him for. I'm hoping his recent cap meant something came our way from Celtic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowsdower Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Everyone is signing unknowns at the moment, so it's hard to tell if the numbers coming in at Aberdeen and hibs mean anything. I have to assume that the law of averages mean these signings won't also be shite, but who knows.Considering where we are in the food chain, we may not be the first option for players who have the extra bit of quality that we need, so we may have to wait for movement elsewhere before we can get our targets. Or, everyone is rejecting us because they saw that reply guy say GA is burning us to the (less sloped than before) ground. Oh, some sell on clause money would be nice, as well as the option to enjoy watching DT again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, rowsdower said: Oh, some sell on clause money would be nice, as well as the option to enjoy watching DT again. Aye, would be nice to be able to hope he does well without simultaneously hoping his team are shite. As for the sell on fee, all sorts of assumptions here but if it's still active (they do expire) could be a decent sum - most seem to be 15-20%, if it's on the £8m above what Celtic paid then that's over a million. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliphas Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 9 hours ago, welldaft said: Well we have got Jubillee coming to Fir Park and we have signed two female players the past week…. Meanwhile Hibs and Aberdeen seem to signing one player a day or in the case of the Dons several players today. No need to panic yet and we can always take solace in the apparent truth that GA thinks McGinley is one of the best defenders in the top flight….yeah I know. Been very quiet the social media team. Are the players back for pre season yet ? Players back next week I believe but not 100% on that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, CoF said: Aye, would be nice to be able to hope he does well without simultaneously hoping his team are shite. As for the sell on fee, all sorts of assumptions here but if it's still active (they do expire) could be a decent sum - most seem to be 15-20%, if it's on the £8m above what Celtic paid then that's over a million. Sell-ons are generally worked out on profit so it wouldn't be over a million if it's an £8m fee. It's been acknowledged that since he's been at Celtic some (possibly all?) of the add-ons in his deal have been triggered. It was rumoured that the total value of the deal was £3.5m so the sell on (let's say 15% for arguments sake) would be 15% of the profit £8m - £3.5m = (£4.5m /100)*15 = £675,000. We're also due a % of the total transfer fee as part of FIFAs solidarity payment. Basically 5% of any fee (through his entire career) is set aside and distributed pro-rata to his development club(s) up to the age of 23 so in this case us and Celtic. I can't remember the precise split but he was 21 when he left us and he turns 23 next month so I think it'd work out as something like 4% us and 1% Celtic as I've a feeling it's worked out in 0.5% increments. Given we're due a solidarity payment you add in 4% of the £8m. So (£8m/100)*4 = £320,000. Sell on = £675,000 Solidarity payment = £320,000 Total = £995,000 On the solidarity payment point it means that with Allan Campbell regardless of whether we negotiated a sell on % with Luton (IIRC the news story implied we'd agreed some sort of benefits) we're still due 5% of any fee he generates through his career. Edited June 22, 2022 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 9 hours ago, welldaft said: Well we have got Jubillee coming to Fir Park and we have signed two female players the past week…. Meanwhile Hibs and Aberdeen seem to signing one player a day or in the case of the Dons several players today. No need to panic yet and we can always take solace in the apparent truth that GA thinks McGinley is one of the best defenders in the top flight….yeah I know. Been very quiet the social media team. Are the players back for pre season yet ? Aberdeen and Hibs were also dreadful last season so very much need players. Given Hibs recruitment over the last 18 months, I'm less than terrified about them accidentally signing a centre half and a guy from the Portuguese second tier as well. Our plan is clearly to not have to overhaul the squad every 12 months, and with the pandemic restrictions ending the need for a bigger squad does too. Don't blame the social team for a light touch atm either, there's about 6 weeks a year where nothing is happening in scottish football, so you're either prepping for next season or taking the chance to sit still. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 53 minutes ago, capt_oats said: Sell-ons are generally worked out on profit so it wouldn't be over a million if it's an £8m fee. Ah, the rumour is £11m. That's where I got the £8m ish from. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Paul McGinn to you guys today 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, eliphas said: Players back next week I believe but not 100% on that. Players return tomorrow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, Leith Green said: Paul McGinn to you guys today A right-back wouldn't have been the first position I'd cover but fair enough...he play anywhere else? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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