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Mahon and Bair were similar, yeah. Think Mahon playing 90 mins in the 2nd leg of the play off was the only minutes either got between signing in January and the start of the next season. They both played in the League Cup group stages and had shockers, tbf.

Mahon refused to accept a bench slot and forced his way out the club, Bair was happier to wait for another chance which never came.

Cleary was a regular and only left for personal reasons, he'd probably still be a regular if he'd been able to stay.

Bair had chances to stake his claim last season, particularly at the start, but didnt manage to. Im fairly sure he had a sliding doors moment v someone at McDiarmid where he had a fairly simple shot from 16 yards and he managed to balloon it over the stand instead. It why im unconvinced anymore game time wouldve helped his cause, as if youre shite for 18/25 games but okay for 7, youre not "proving youre good enough", youre still a net negative. We've a few still like that on our books tbh.

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1 hour ago, capt_oats said:

 

Vaguely related, given the bold Thelonius wasn't exactly I noticed this last night when I was doom scrolling, it's quite a well worn trope and there’s definitely an expectation vs reality issue but it did make me wonder:

1) Someone we've heard of

2) but not someone who's played for Rangers, Celtic or Hearts

3) and not someone that has been round too many clubs - shite journeyman (but needs to know the league)

4) Someone who is not too young and on loan as we don't want to develop other people's players 

5) Not someone too old and past it but must be experienced

6) Someone from the lower leagues in Scotland but they have to be an instant success at the higher level

7) Someone that doesn't break the wage structure but not an English lower league jobber or a cheap foreigner

8 ) Someone who's not out of favour at their current club but is instantly available

9) Someone who the manager knows already but isn't part of an "old pals act"

 

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1 minute ago, Swello said:

1) Someone we've heard of

2) but not someone who's played for Rangers, Celtic or Hearts

3) and not someone that has been round too many clubs - shite journeyman (but needs to know the league)

4) Someone who is not too young and on loan as we don't want to develop other people's players 

5) Not someone too old and past it but must be experienced

6) Someone from the lower leagues in Scotland but they have to be an instant success at the higher level

7) Someone that doesn't break the wage structure but not an English lower league jobber or a cheap foreigner

8 ) Someone who's not out of favour at their current club but is instantly available

9) Someone who the manager knows already but isn't part of an "old pals act"

 

Welcome, Dom Thomas. 

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54 minutes ago, welldaft said:

One of my pals has said he saw some speculation that Oli Shaw may be away or about to leave the club. I guess if he is injured I assume we would be able to cut any loan deal short as happens the other way with Biereth recall.

Leave us VERY light up front if true even if he did not make a great impact or any sort of impact. His miss when he was thought on goal in his debut probably sums up his impact.  That goes in it may have been different. He did have the assist for late equaliser v Dundee or Ross C if I recall. Hey ho nothing official.

 

Heard that aswell this morning. We have seemingly terminated his loan. Not a usual source so tbh, can’t verify it. Also that we have had another ex Hearts player on trial. Sam someone. But again not sure who. 

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If oli Shaw is a negative to us, then surely terminating the loan is an overall neutral or even positive outcome?

 

Now any wages could be put towards a better possible striker with the 2 weeks or so left of the transfer window.

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11 minutes ago, wellboy1991 said:

Heard that aswell this morning. We have seemingly terminated his loan. Not a usual source so tbh, can’t verify it. Also that we have had another ex Hearts player on trial. Sam someone. But again not sure who. 

Sam Nicholson?

Quick a look suggests he's playing for colorado rapids 2 this season, for whatever reason.

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51 minutes ago, Swello said:

1) Someone we've heard of

2) but not someone who's played for Rangers, Celtic or Hearts

3) and not someone that has been round too many clubs - shite journeyman (but needs to know the league)

4) Someone who is not too young and on loan as we don't want to develop other people's players 

5) Not someone too old and past it but must be experienced

6) Someone from the lower leagues in Scotland but they have to be an instant success at the higher level

7) Someone that doesn't break the wage structure but not an English lower league jobber or a cheap foreigner

8 ) Someone who's not out of favour at their current club but is instantly available

9) Someone who the manager knows already but isn't part of an "old pals act"

 

It's amazing how a good start can get the fans excited. We took a chance on someone called Scott  McDonald and he came on and scored a debut goal in a cup game at Perth. 

On the flip side, there's David Ferrere. Lots of excitement that didn't really amount to much.

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