well fan for life Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 hours ago, Gallus Numpty said: From his highlights reel, his average scoring distance appears to be about 3 yards. That's about twice as far as John Sutton's average so I'll take it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliphas Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, crazylegsjoe_mfc said: One of my early channel five memories is seeing Mikko Kaven playing for Valerenga (I think) against Chelsea, shortly after he left us. I also remember shortly afterwards the Liverpool v Barcelona UEFA cup semi being delayed by 15 minutes to accommodate the longer "who shot Phil Mitchell" episode of EastEnders. European football used to be great back then. Both the UEFA cup and the Cup Winners' Cup had their USPs and winning the cup held more importance back then. Watching a game in September or October where the teams were going for it was class, compared to now where we have the Champions League and two lesser versions of it. Have to say, none of my early channel 5 memories involve football. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellboy1991 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, eliphas said: Have to say, none of my early channel 5 memories involve football. Channel 4 on a Sunday was the best. Gazzetta Football Italia during the day followed by an Emmanuelle movie or a Gerard Depardiue ‘special’ at night. The good old days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanFan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 On 03/03/2024 at 10:28, ropy said: Took them to the woodshed haha. Damn straight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 12 hours ago, Handsome_Devil said: The CWC was fantastic and it was a shame the CL killed it. Actually I said somewhere here recently there were virtually no positive changes since the passback rule but the introduction of the conference league was indeed a brilliant move to recreate that a bit. I love the Conference league man. It breaks my heart that had it been around just a wee bit earlier we'd have been in group stage football at a canter. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettigrew Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 12 hours ago, Handsome_Devil said: The CWC was fantastic and it was a shame the CL killed it. Actually I said somewhere here recently there were virtually no positive changes since the passback rule but the introduction of the conference league was indeed a brilliant move to recreate that a bit. This was a decent read on the topic of the CWC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 15 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said: I love the Conference league man. It breaks my heart that had it been around just a wee bit earlier we'd have been in group stage football at a canter. So do I. In a way it's ridiculous to say it's because it's not about money because pretty much everything UEFA does comes down to money one way or another.. but there's certainly the impression that folk in it are just thrilled to be competing against peers for something worth winning having effectively been priced out of other competitions. Which is extraordinary when you consider who tends to reach the last four here. It's also curious to wonder just how far UEFA will go in developing European football for everyone. Does it lose its appeal if it's default and not a prize? Probably a bit...but if you keep diluting the domestic leagues to promote European competitions, you're going to have to provide some kind of alternative for the rest. Certainly if we were involved in some kind of regional competition - whether a knockout or group format - for teams with less than 10,000 fans I'd find it absolutely fascinating, though I dunno if others would. But perhaps that's just what 40 years of playing interchangeable St Mirren, Dunfermline, Kilmarnock etc four times a year does to you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 With Ebiye signing, by my count, of the players who'll have kicked a baw in the first team that gives us 10 contracted for next season, 15 OOC with 5 loans expiring plus Ricki Lamie's PCA to Dundee confirmed. 2024: Kelly, Oxborough; O'Donnell, Mugabi, McGinn, Wilson, Elliot, Butcher; Maguire, Spittal, Slattery, Wells; Obika, Nicholson, Ferrie 2025: Casey, Blaney; Halliday, Paton, Zdravkovski, Tierney; Bair, Ebiye, L. Ross 2026: Miller Loans expiring: Gent, Devine, Montgomery, Shaw, Vale Pre-contract: Lamie (to Dundee) Based on how we're setting up at the moment this is how it looks: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 19 minutes ago, Handsome_Devil said: So do I. In a way it's ridiculous to say it's because it's not about money because pretty much everything UEFA does comes down to money one way or another.. but there's certainly the impression that folk in it are just thrilled to be competing against peers for something worth winning having effectively been priced out of other competitions. Which is extraordinary when you consider who tends to reach the last four here. It's also curious to wonder just how far UEFA will go in developing European football for everyone. Does it lose its appeal if it's default and not a prize? Probably a bit...but if you keep diluting the domestic leagues to promote European competitions, you're going to have to provide some kind of alternative for the rest. Certainly if we were involved in some kind of regional competition - whether a knockout or group format - for teams with less than 10,000 fans I'd find it absolutely fascinating, though I dunno if others would. But perhaps that's just what 40 years of playing interchangeable St Mirren, Dunfermline, Kilmarnock etc four times a year does to you. I would argue that for teams of our size, a competition that - on a good year - you could conceivably compete and achieve group stage football is a far bigger prize than the dull procession of losses against teams from a different level that we experienced in a lot of our qualifications. Losing to Odense in the EL Playoff will always be one the very sorest losses for me because it was two teams from the same planet football-wise, getting pumped by Panathinaikos, not so much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil86 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 16 minutes ago, Swello said: I would argue that for teams of our size, a competition that - on a good year - you could conceivably compete and achieve group stage football is a far bigger prize than the dull procession of losses against teams from a different level that we experienced in a lot of our qualifications. Losing to Odense in the EL Playoff will always be one the very sorest losses for me because it was two teams from the same planet football-wise, getting pumped by Panathinaikos, not so much. I shudder at the chances we missed at Fir Park 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Did we miss a penalty or is my memory playing tricks on me? Murphy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, Archie McSquackle said: Did we miss a penalty or is my memory playing tricks on me? Murphy? Aye. Murphy bottled a penalty after the Odense players were delaying him taking it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil86 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I also totally forgot Odense went down to 9 men, albeit late on according to the report. I vaguely remember Blackman missing an absolute sitter as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 4 minutes ago, capt_oats said: 2024: Kelly, Oxborough; O'Donnell, Mugabi, McGinn, Wilson, Elliot, Butcher; Maguire, Spittal, Slattery, Wells; Obika, Nicholson, Ferrie 2025: Casey, Blaney; Halliday, Paton, Zdravkovski, Tierney; Bair, Ebiye, L. Ross 2026: Miller Loans expiring: Gent, Devine, Montgomery, Shaw, Vale I'd expect us to retain the ones highlighted. As much as I'd love to keep Spittal, canny see it. Any of the loanees not called "Shaw" similarly welcome to stay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said: I'd expect us to retain the ones highlighted. As much as I'd love to keep Spittal, canny see it. Any of the loanees not called "Shaw" similarly welcome to stay. Aye. I dunno, maybe I'm reading a bit too much into things but I thought it was interesting that we seemed to lean heavily into the SOD, McGinn, Mugabi (and Kelly) of it all in the content posted on the socials after Saturday. I suppose I should have caveated that earlier post by saying that our recent 'unreliable narrator' approach to contracts and expiries should probably be factored into this sort of thing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 22 minutes ago, capt_oats said: I suppose I should have caveated that earlier post by saying that our recent 'unreliable narrator' approach to contracts and expiries should probably be factored into this sort of thing. Turns out Liam Kelly received a 3 year extension as Goalkeeper and CEO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 30 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said: I'd expect us to retain the ones highlighted. As much as I'd love to keep Spittal, canny see it. Any of the loanees not called "Shaw" similarly welcome to stay. Spittal's one man goal of the season contest has definitely put any hopes of a new contract with us to bed. I'll be sad to see him go because he's a joy to watch when he's on his game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Can I just shock you? I like this Motherwell team. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camer0n_mcd Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Chris Cadden returned from injury on Saturday, he came off of the bench to get 6 minutes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vietnam91 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 4 minutes ago, camer0n_mcd said: Chris Cadden returned from injury on Saturday, he came off of the bench to get 6 minutes. Cheers for sharing, I missed that. I’ll get my voodoo doll out and insert another needle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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