Drew Brees Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 hours ago, AJF said: Rumour mill has it Gio will be leaving tomorrow. Good time to do it although still coming a bit too late. European final, Scottish cup champions and CL qualification. He’s a superb manager and a genuinely beautiful human being. This is disgraceful. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18May1991 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 16 hours ago, bennett said: He'll play 2 or 3 games then get crooked again. Fil Helander has slammed internet rumours that his career is on the line and insists he can be back playing for Rangers in the early part of next year. The Swedish superstar has been out of action since April when he suffered a foot injury in a 4-0 win over St Mirren in Paisley. It didn’t seem that serious at the time but Helander has not been able to play since. It came after the former Bologna centre back had spent five months out of action after requiring knee surgery having scored the winner in the first Old Firm clash of the season in August last year. Stories have been spread that the nature of the injury was so complicated that there were fears medical staff would never get to the bottom of it and the career of the 29-year-old star was in jeopardy. However, Scottish Express Sport can reveal that Helander has had successful surgery on the bone issue and is confident that he will make a complete recovery and will play for Rangers by February or March “Swedish Superstar…” they’re just taking the piss now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I shall miss Gio and Ange’s bromance. But I’m sure the big man will see a couple more off before he heads to a good job in England. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Gerrard the current favourite …. Oh please let this happen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: Gerrard the current favourite …. Oh please let this happen Heaven forbid we appoint a manager that was outperforming Big Ange last year before he left. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 23 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: Gerrard the current favourite …. Oh please let this happen Hope so. A failed Aston Villa manager is about their level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, AJF said: Heaven forbid we appoint a manager that was outperforming Big Ange last year before he left. Without Michael Beale who well all know is one of the biggest reasons as to why he was successful further underpinned by how much of a shit show Villa became once he went to QPR. Furthermore he isn’t popular with all Rangers fans in the same BR is to Celtic fans, he left you for more money and the club as a consequence lost the league and significant ground on Celtic. And how do you measure out performing as it seems to be Ange has won double the trophies Stevie G has and done so in a single season either way I hope you get him Edited November 14, 2022 by Jinky67 -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: Without Michael Beale who well all know is one of the biggest reasons as to why he was successful further underpinned by how much of a shit show Villa became once he went to QPR. Furthermore he isn’t popular with all Rangers fans in the same BR is to Celtic fans, he left you for more money and the club as a consequence lost the league and significant ground on Celtic. And how do you measure out performing as it seems to be Ange has won double the trophies Stevie G has and done so in a single season either way I hope you get him I measured outperforming him using the fact that in the period they were up against each other Gerrard was 4 points clear. Each of Ange's trophies came after Gerrard had left. Not to mention that Gerrard had a very good record v Celtic which is largely one of Gio's main downfalls. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Gerrard should or will come back, I'm just not buying this act that you'd welcome it as much as you are portraying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, AJF said: I measured outperforming him using the fact that in the period they were up against each other Gerrard was 4 points clear. Each of Ange's trophies came after Gerrard had left. Not to mention that Gerrard had a very good record v Celtic which is largely one of Gio's main downfalls. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Gerrard should or will come back, I'm just not buying this act that you'd welcome it as much as you are portraying. Ok I take it all back I didn’t realise the gap was so huge. Now I know Celtic only had their worst start since the Lou Macari days and were rebuilding pretty much an entire squad so were pretty threadbare but that should not detract from that level of higher performance. Genuinely a miracle we were able to close that gap at all. Edited November 14, 2022 by Jinky67 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahemps Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Jinky67 said: Without Michael Beale who well all know is one of the biggest reasons as to why he was successful further underpinned by how much of a shit show Villa became once he went to QPR. Furthermore he isn’t popular with all Rangers fans in the same BR is to Celtic fans, he left you for more money and the club as a consequence lost the league and significant ground on Celtic. And how do you measure out performing as it seems to be Ange has won double the trophies Stevie G has and done so in a single season either way I hope you get him You are joking eh. Can you not remember the poisonous abuse he got on social media and talk shows and banners in the stands? How he walked out on the 10, left halfway through a season etc. etc. I know Celtic fans today that still call him a rat. The general hatred may have softened more than Rangers fans to Gerrard but it is a few years older and the fact Celtic are currently winning the 2 horse race at this time helps in that regard. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/celtic-fans-troll-brendan-rodgers-14063900 https://www.67hailhail.com/news/brendan-rodgers-insults-celtic-fans-further-with-ridiculous-view-on-2019-walk-out/ https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/brendan-rodgers-celtic-fans-saying-28176033 https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1094858/Celtic-Brendan-Rodgers-fans-banner-Hibs-Scottish-Cup-Leicester-City-Neil-Lennon https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/11/20/disrespectful-some-celtic-fans-react-to-brendan-rodgers-comments/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: Ok I take it all back I didn’t realise the gap was so huge. Now I know Celtic only had their worst start since the Lou Macari days and were rebuilding pretty much an entire squad so were pretty threadbare but that should not detract from that level of higher performance. Genuinely a miracle we were able to close that gap at all. So, he was outperforming him, yes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Gerrard would be an utterly mental appointment. For one thing, as outlined above, he doesn't have the same backroom team he had before, and for another he won't be up against the joke that was Neil Lennon or the comparatively horrific squad which he'd assembled. There are still a good few Rangers fans who resent him leaving them for Villa, so he'll get absolutely no leeway at all. A couple of iffy league results and/or a doing from Celtic and the knives will be out. It would be a huge gamble from both sides of the table. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, AJF said: So, he was outperforming him, yes? Not really mate, in my opinion 4 points is pretty negligible in the grand scheme of things when it comes to performance especially when their is nothing to show for that and tbf the only thing you probably highlight is that Stevie G was underperforming at the time he left especially considering the previous season. Let me apply context to that for you though when Gerrard left you had 30 points after 13 games, Gio after 13 had 29? But yet Gio is considered to be massively underperforming yet Gerrard was “outperforming” Ange. Feel free to take it as a win as I know they are hard to come by just now but it certainly isn’t the win you think it is Edited November 14, 2022 by Jinky67 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: Not really mate, 4 points is pretty negligible in the grand scheme of things when it comes to performance especially when their is nothing to show for that and tbf the only thing you probably highlight is that Stevie G was underperforming at the time he left especially considering the previous season. Let me apply context to that for you though when Gerrard left you had 30 points after 13 games, Gio after 13 had 29? But yet Gio is considered to be massively underperforming yet Gerrard was “outperforming” Ange. Feel free to take it as a win as I know they are hard to come by just now but it certainly isn’t the win you think it is So being 4 points ahead wasn't outperforming him? That also included a victory over Celtic with a covid depleted squad. Gio's time to go has come not only based on his league performances this season, either. I'm not trying to "win" anything here, I've already said I don't think Gerrard should return, I'm just not buying the faux bravado as if you'd celebrate Gerrard returning, particularly given his record in head-to-head matches v Celtic. Edited November 14, 2022 by AJF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, AJF said: So being 4 points ahead wasn't outperforming him? That also included a victory over Celtic with a covid depleted squad. Gio's time to go has come not only based on his league performances this year, either. I'm not trying to "win" anything here, I've already said I don't think Gerrard should return, I'm just not buying the faux bravado as if you'd celebrate Gerrard returning, particularly given his record in head-to-head matches v Celtic. Mate like I said you have to apply context to numbers for them to make any sense a binary way of looking at things doesn’t work for me so I gave you my opinion already. And my bravado comes from the fact based on their relative performance with a similar squad there is a 1 point difference between Gio and Gerrard ( that’s without taking into account the impact of Rangers current injuries) and secondly it’s not an emotional Neil Lennon in charge of Celtic. So yeah I genuinely would love to see him back as again in my opinion it would be a disaster for Rangers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 32 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: Gerrard would be an utterly mental appointment. For one thing, as outlined above, he doesn't have the same backroom team he had before, and for another he won't be up against the joke that was Neil Lennon or the comparatively horrific squad which he'd assembled. There are still a good few Rangers fans who resent him leaving them for Villa, so he'll get absolutely no leeway at all. A couple of iffy league results and/or a doing from Celtic and the knives will be out. It would be a huge gamble from both sides of the table. To be fair, that sounds like fun and games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just now, scottsdad said: To be fair, that sounds like fun and games. It's the second best banter option behind simply not sacking GVB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 21 hours ago, AJF said: I’d be surprised if it’s as high as that, but aye, it’ll be a costly decision to make but ultimately the right one in my opinion. That depends how the next guy in does. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, printer said: That depends how the next guy in does. Aye, you need to get the appointment right. But the decision to get rid of Gio would still be the correct one I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Jinky67 said: Ok I take it all back I didn’t realise the gap was so huge. Now I know Celtic only had their worst start since the Lou Macari days and were rebuilding pretty much an entire squad so were pretty threadbare but that should not detract from that level of higher performance. Genuinely a miracle we were able to close that gap at all. A threadbare squad, truly Roy of the Rovers stuff there Jinky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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