vikingTON Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 You mean that Corbyn won't do as the Blairites and the EUphile warmongers tell him to do? Like it or not, he has a democratic mandate. And he can't put together more than twenty supporters from the Parliamentary group he's supposed to be leading. Which yeah, in a parliamentary democracy, trumps any personal mandate. Hopefully he drags it on though, the civil war would be hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 You mean that Corbyn won't do as the Blairites and the EUphile warmongers tell him to do? Like it or not, he has a democratic mandate. The PLP have a far larger mandate. He has betrayed the party, the electorate and the entire remain campaign. His lacklustre approach to the referendum is what got us into this utterly shit situation in the first place. We've left the EU partially because of this man. He needs to go. His mandate was to lead, not to be utterly useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 This. He's had literally no chance to do anything. Get the backstabbers to f**k, if they don't want to be in his labour party they can let someone else stand in the GE Erm yes - you are aware that the next scheduled GE isn't until 2020? How do you propose that the great leader manages to continue in his post as leader of the opposition for four full years, with Diane Abbott as his only supporter in the PLP? The absolutely desperate, personal wagon-circling by the Labour left around their doomed failure of a leader is beyond parody now. And it will further tear apart their rubbish political party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 When are the Labour party going to take some collective responsibility for their failure to get "their vote" out, and stop scapegoating Corbyn ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Erm yes - you are aware that the next scheduled GE isn't until 2020? How do you propose that the great leader manages to continue in his post as leader of the opposition for four full years, with Diane Abbott as his only supporter in the PLP? The absolutely desperate, personal wagon-circling by the Labour left around their doomed failure of a leader is beyond parody now. And it will further tear apart their rubbish political party. I thought the whole point of the coup was that there might be an autumn election? Also, you're talking about a post most recently inhabited by Ed Miliband and that has which great leaders waiting in the wings? Hillary Ben? Tom Watson? The disparity in the views of the plp, the members and the electorate isn't going to be solved by further squabbling. Be as well to piss with the cock you've got than this horrendous public demonstration of just how unfit for purpose the labour party actually is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Don't see what Corbyn could have done and why he's being asked to go. Labour looks like going back to being full of career politicians and tory policies. Being a duplicitous spineless cvnt regards the referendum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 When are the Labour party going to take some collective responsibility for their failure to get "their vote" out, and stop scapegoating Corbyn ? Corbyn as leader has to take ultimate responsibility for the shit awful campaign Labour ran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Corbyn as leader has to take ultimate responsibility for the shit awful campaign Labour ran. But the issue is should he take sole responsibility. There are many in the Labour Party only too willing to set Corbyn up for a fall. The idea that he and he alone was responsible for Labour's lacklustre contribution to the debate is something that can only be argued by those who want him bumped anyway. Do you know any such folk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 But the issue is should he take sole responsibility. There are many in the Labour Party only too willing to set Corbyn up for a fall. The idea that he and he alone was responsible for Labour's lacklustre contribution to the debate is something that can only be argued by those who want him bumped anyway. Do you know any such folk? He's known about this referendum since he was elected.It was he who chose not to share a platform with Cameron. It was he who deliberately kept a low profile during the campaign. And you have to ask - why? It looks to me that he was a Lexiter all along but didn't have the guts to stand by his beliefs - that's a sign of a complete shitebag not a leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 He's known about this referendum since he was elected. It was he who chose not to share a platform with Cameron. It was he who deliberately kept a low profile during the campaign. And you have to ask - why? It looks to me that he was a Lexiter all along but didn't have the guts to stand by his beliefs - that's a sign of a complete shitebag not a leader. Miliband chose to share a platform with the Tories over the Independence Referendum and look what happened to him. Like I said he may have to take the blame but there's others in the Labour Party equally as culpable and no one is shouting for their blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Miliband chose to share a platform with the Tories over the Independence Referendum and look what happened to him. Like I said he may have to take the blame but there's others in the Labour Party equally as culpable and no one is shouting for their blood. What an absolutely bizarre thing to come away with. Ed Miliband getting kicked in the pie was almost nothing to do with the referendum result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Voted Keir Starmer because I've never heard of him, which makes him the least offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Miliband chose to share a platform with the Tories over the Independence Referendum and look what happened to him. Like I said he may have to take the blame but there's others in the Labour Party equally as culpable and no one is shouting for their blood. I think blaming the reject's failure on having Cameron's hand up his arse working the controls in Scotland lets him off far too easy. His incompetence stretched much farther than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 He's known about this referendum since he was elected. It was he who chose not to share a platform with Cameron. It was he who deliberately kept a low profile during the campaign. And you have to ask - why? It looks to me that he was a Lexiter all along but didn't have the guts to stand by his beliefs - that's a sign of a complete shitebag not a leader. It's pretty obvious he hates the EU and wanted to Leave, his previous comments on the EU show this and his half-arsed attempt in the Remain campaign suggest this. For a guy who is meant to be about 'an honest type of politics' it's pretty pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 It's pretty obvious he hates the EU and wanted to Leave, his previous comments on the EU show this and his half-arsed attempt in the Remain campaign suggest this. For a guy who is meant to be about 'an honest type of politics' it's pretty pathetic. If he really hates the EU he has a chance of beating Boris in a snap GE if he promises to enact article 50 on day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 When are the Labour party going to take some collective responsibility for their failure to get "their vote" out, and stop scapegoating Corbyn ? Yeah - it's like a football manager being sacked because the team have done badly. Like when has that ever happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Is that 13 or 14 now?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Is that 13 or 14 now?? Missed a couple seemingly its 15 going by some no mark on the breakfast news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 It does seem like opportunism by some who never accepted him in the first place. 63% of Labour voters voted remain but he's still getting the blame. I can't see him surviving though. Best case scenario is he goes and we get a left of centre leader with a bit more of a connection with the voters (no idea who that would be, mind). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Dan Hodges tweeting that Tom Watson will be asking Corbyn to step down. Watson, of course, has his own mandate from party members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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