Fullerene Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 The key thing with Jeremy Corbyn is does he have any appeal beyond those who agree with him on everything already - and I mean voters not activists and members? By comparison, Nicola Sturgeon and Ruth Davidson get praise from people who do not even vote for them.As a result, they can influence opinion beyond their own support. I am in no doubt that Jeremy Corbyn is a nice guy who says all the right things as far as the members are concerned.However party membership is a tiny fraction of the electorate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 They need a Blairite maybe that Dan Jarvis guy but it doesn't help that their members are all left wing loonies You calling anyone else a loony is rather amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 The key thing with Jeremy Corbyn is does he have any appeal beyond those who agree with him on everything already - and I mean voters not activists and members? By comparison, Nicola Sturgeon and Ruth Davidson get praise from people who do not even vote for them. As a result, they can influence opinion beyond their own support. I am in no doubt that Jeremy Corbyn is a nice guy who says all the right things as far as the members are concerned. However party membership is a tiny fraction of the electorate. They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 A Blairite would be as bad a choice as sticking with Corbyn IMO. Need a soft left candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejan Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 This made me laugh Jim Murphy â€@GlasgowMurphy Been off twitter for long time but dramatic events unfolding this afternoon. Ireland beating France 1-0. #COYBIG And just like that. Everything Murphy touches, sorry, Tweets, turns to shÃte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 This made me laugh Jim Murphy â€@GlasgowMurphy Been off twitter for long time but dramatic events unfolding this afternoon. Ireland beating France 1-0. #COYBIG That is brilliant, fair play to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Burnham in 'being a massive shitebag' shock. The number of times that Labour have managed to Dundee their own internal coup over the last decade is astounding. Corbyn is still finished but they've only added further fail to their record by managing to make a complete and utter c**t of his defenestration. Truly the gift that keeps on giving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Charlie Falconer makes it 10 leavers now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 More than a few things being banded about regarding Corbyn and his reluctance with the remain campaign. Understandably, it's fueling the fire somewhat as well. What the f**k is the point in Andy Burnham? Never before I have I seen such a weak, vapid excuse of a politician. Corbyn is what he is, but at least you know he stands for something. Burnham is a substanceless waste of space who seems to offer nothing else than being a professional Northerner. Even then, it would probably transpire that he hates gravy if you dug deep enough into that aspect of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Many people don't know Corbyn stands for something though. Because too many times, he has not stood for anything. Sitting on the sidelines or being a shitebag. While it's true that people have been desperate to challenge him, that doesn't mean he hasn't also made sure that they'd be correct to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 What has Corbyn actually achieved as leader of the opposition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 What has Corbyn actually achieved as leader of the opposition? He's kept his heard relatively neat. Otherwise f**k all. I quite liked him at first, and had high hopes that something was happening with Labour. Turned out to be a pig in a poke: he may have ideas I agree with, but he's ineffectual, totally lacking in charisma, and slightly creepy, like an Uncle who bounces you on his knee for longer than is comfortable at a family party, when you're seventeen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 He's kept his heard relatively neat. Otherwise f**k all. I quite liked him at first, and had high hopes that something was happening with Labour. Turned out to be a pig in a poke: he may have ideas I agree with, but he's ineffectual, totally lacking in charisma, and slightly creepy, like an Uncle who bounces you on his knee for longer than is comfortable at a family party, when you're seventeen. That's what I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Charlie Falconer makes it 10 leavers now.It was reported this morning he was the guy who kept everything together. He could be a resignation to many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 No 11 has gone in the planned exodus during the day, that makes the 9th ive never heard off some bloke called karl turner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 It looks like Tom Watson is going to side with the rebels, reading between the lines of his statement this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Watson must be favourite for leader now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Watson must be favourite for leader now. Its between him you and wullie fae aberdeen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 If the Lib Dems weren't a toxic brand, I think we would have seen a few defections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wile E Coyote Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 All the people who have resigned are no-marks. Perphaps that's the problem with the Labour Party, there are no big characters to get the public/voters excited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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