HTG Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 19 minutes ago, kilbowie2002 said: Libya for a start. Im not saying it was a good regime etc but why did we go into overthrow Gaddafi and not Erdogan both are completely mental. Erdogan plays on prejudice - same as Farage. But he's been properly elected reasonably recently. I have a friend who went over as an independent assessor of the election process in Kurdish areas and he didn't observe anything untoward. That doesn't mean it didn't happen of course but then great democracies have suffered from hanging chads. But to compare Turkey with Libya is utter nonsense. Not that there was reason to go in there and empty Ghadaffi - we'd tolerated him for donkeys years. But boys and their whims eh? Turkey will feel pretty unstable for a while but it's too strategically important not to support it. And this boy is there legitimately whether the west likes it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Not all protests are clamped down on. Obviously there are concerns when anyone is elected on a ticket built around religion but we're not averse to a bit of kettling in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 15,200 education staff suspended in Turkey. Turkey is going full blown Sharia law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 21,000 school teachers punted along with every university dean in the country, proper heads gone from Erdogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 57 minutes ago, Mozzamozza said: Send them all our unemployed. Well take their clever ones and the good looking women. On the bus heading for Mozzamozza as we speak as, under Turkish law, that was technically a proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worktheshaft Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 It's all gone a bit 'Reichstag Fire 1933'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Aye, Trident might be a handy thing to have right enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 BBC revealing the man behind the failed overthrow of Erdogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspy Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Was his loan spell not up anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Three month state of emergency imposed. Turkish democracy will be dead by the time it's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Sacked thousands of teachers. Mind you, there will probably be 50% less pupils soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 The government are now ruling by decree and have the power to bypass parliament to make laws, suspending the human rights convention and also considering bringing back the death penalty. If I was one of the soldiers involved in the failed coup I would, quite frankly, be shitting myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 This is a fascinating analysis of the Turkish coup attempt by Turkish Economist Dani Rodrik, including a theory of why the attempt was so shoddy. In summary: it wasn't definitely the Gulenists, but as we stand it's the only plausible possibility. For those in the "Anyone But Erdogan" camp, here's a few words of his about the Gulenists: They have a disturbing record of targeting, slandering, harassing, imprisoning their perceived opponents – military officers, journalists, police commissioners, politicians -- leading on a few of occasions to their deaths. Full article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/07/turkey-independent-monitors-must-be-allowed-to-access-detainees-amid-torture-allegations/ Getting nasty in the detention centres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Arrests continue as Erdogan clamps down on those accused of backing the coup. Rapprochement with Russia has led to talk of leaving NATO and closer military and industrial cooperation with Russia. Turkey given up on EU membership so will seek closer ties in other markets. Hakan Suker has warrant for his arrest issued. He's currently in the US. US moves nuclear weapons from Incerlik airbase to Romania. It's all happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Who'd have seen this happening after Turkey shot down that Russian jet? There's talk of them letting the Russians use the base where the Americans keep their nukes, that's top trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxman Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Their tourism industry is taking a bit of a doing now!!! I love Turkey but under Erdogan it's going to hell in a handcart!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 The aftermath to the Turkish coup seems far better planned than the coup itself... Dictators gonna dictate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspy Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Who'd have seen this happening after Turkey shot down that Russian jet? There's talk of them letting the Russians use the base where the Americans keep their nukes, that's top trolling. It looks like Iran is getting in on the action as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 8 hours ago, Zetterlund said: Who'd have seen this happening after Turkey shot down that Russian jet? There's talk of them letting the Russians use the base where the Americans keep their nukes, that's top trolling. Russia's revenge is not to get back at Turkey, more to use Turkey as its bitch. I still think the truth behind the coup would be very interesting indeed, especially Russia's involvement, and I'll bet you anything Russia was involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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