ICTChris Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 One person has died and five are injured following a mass stabbing at Russell Square in London. Police have detained a suspect and have commented that the suspects mental health is a significant factor. They also haven't ruled out terrorism as a potential motive. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36972126 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 FFS Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 4, 2016 Author Share Posted August 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, throbber said: FFS Chris. Starting threads about death is my brand now throbber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Ive been to London could have been me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Starting threads about death is my brand now throbber. Due to the fact people get stabbed in London every day I'm assuming the deceased was white and from a fairly affluent background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Cut through there only a few weeks back - it's part of the route most visitors going to the British Musuem use if using the Underground to get about. The area is the heart of the 'lit' district of London, lots of publishing houses, literary agents, bookshops, plus more than a few language schools. Russell Square is nice enough, but appears to attact boozing jakeys and others on something harder even in the daytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 4, 2016 Author Share Posted August 4, 2016 I think it's more the fact that numerous people were stabbed that has made this more newsworthy. No details have been released about the victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 If only everyone in the UK had access to knives, this would never have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 #jesuisrussellsquare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightswoodBear Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 37 minutes ago, ICTChris said: One person has died and five are injured following a mass stabbing at Russell Square in London. Police have detained a suspect and have commented that the suspects mental health is a significant factor. They also haven't ruled out terrorism as a potential motive. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36972126 White guy, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim O'Grady Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 #IndyRef2 now. Keeo us safe wee Nic. G-Bo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 The terrorism angle is getting used and abused at every opportunity: (So called) journalist "Could this be terrorist related?" Policeman "We cannot rule it out" Headline "Police cannot rule out terrorism in this incident". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, KnightswoodBear said: White guy, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim O'Grady Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Who's got Bob the Tank's number? When he's finished erecting his Anderson shelter I want him to come round to ours & build us one. G-Bo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: The terrorism angle is getting used and abused at every opportunity: (So called) journalist "Could this be terrorist related?" Policeman "We cannot rule it out" Headline "Police cannot rule out terrorism in this incident". The BBC World Service rolled out "terrorism expert" Frank Gardner shortly after news of the recent German attacks broke. He claimed he would be "staggered" if it wasn't terrorist related as it "bore all the hallmarks" etc. They had him on again a few days later for his expert opinion on something else with no mention of the fact that he'd made a complete baws of his German analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 4, 2016 Author Share Posted August 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Dee Man said: The BBC World Service rolled out "terrorism expert" Frank Gardner shortly after news of the recent German attacks broke. He claimed he would be "staggered" if it wasn't terrorist related as it "bore all the hallmarks" etc. They had him on again a few days later for his expert opinion on something else with no mention of the fact that he'd made a complete baws of his German analysis. Frank Gardner is the BBC Security correspondent so he would've been speaking in that capacity rather than as an outside expert being interviewed. To be fair to him, considering the attack in Munich was similar to previous terrorist attacks (random shooting in populated area) and there had been a series of attacks in Germany confirmed to be at the very least inspired by extreme Islamist ideology, speculating that the Munich shootings were likely to be linked to the same isn't a huge leap. Max Abrams is a professor of political science at Northeastern University and coined the phrase 'loon wolf' for a lot of the attacks that we are seeing. Previously terrorist organisations put efforts into training and indoctrinating recruits, then planning and executing co-ordinated attacks. This was risky, cost a lot of time and money and had mixed results. What IS appear to be doing now is simply stating "attack and kill people in any way you can" to anyone who decides to hitch their wagon to IS. Thus you end up with violent oddballs carrying out horrific acts and then claiming it's IS. It makes them very difficult to predict and prevent. There's always been a crossover of mental health and terrorism (not just Islamist, look at some of the horrors committed in Northern Ireland or David Copeland) and I think that quite a few of those convicted of terrorist offences are likely to have ended up doing something simlar anyway (the Lee Rigby murderers are both now in Broadmoor, the guy convicted last week of the Tube attack). There's something poisonous about extremist ideology that attracts the paranoid, the violent, the irrational. Of course, we don't know anything about this specific incident at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Was there this time last month. Could've been me who started this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Frank Gardner is the BBC Security correspondent so he would've been speaking in that capacity rather than as an outside expert being interviewed. To be fair to him, considering the attack in Munich was similar to previous terrorist attacks (random shooting in populated area) and there had been a series of attacks in Germany confirmed to be at the very least inspired by extreme Islamist ideology, speculating that the Munich shootings were likely to be linked to the same isn't a huge leap. Max Abrams is a professor of political science at Northeastern University and coined the phrase 'loon wolf' for a lot of the attacks that we are seeing. Previously terrorist organisations put efforts into training and indoctrinating recruits, then planning and executing co-ordinated attacks. This was risky, cost a lot of time and money and had mixed results. What IS appear to be doing now is simply stating "attack and kill people in any way you can" to anyone who decides to hitch their wagon to IS. Thus you end up with violent oddballs carrying out horrific acts and then claiming it's IS. It makes them very difficult to predict and prevent. There's always been a crossover of mental health and terrorism (not just Islamist, look at some of the horrors committed in Northern Ireland or David Copeland) and I think that quite a few of those convicted of terrorist offences are likely to have ended up doing something simlar anyway (the Lee Rigby murderers are both now in Broadmoor, the guy convicted last week of the Tube attack). There's something poisonous about extremist ideology that attracts the paranoid, the violent, the irrational. Of course, we don't know anything about this specific incident at the moment. 'Loon Wolf' Forfar fans then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Frank Gardner is the BBC Security correspondent so he would've been speaking in that capacity rather than as an outside expert being interviewed. To be fair to him, considering the attack in Munich was similar to previous terrorist attacks (random shooting in populated area) and there had been a series of attacks in Germany confirmed to be at the very least inspired by extreme Islamist ideology, speculating that the Munich shootings were likely to be linked to the same isn't a huge leap. The point is it was pure speculation and he was miles out. I'll do guesswork on solving crimes for half his salary if that's all the job entails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Wasn't the Munich thing an Iranian neo Nazi Muslim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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