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One person has died and five are injured following a mass stabbing at Russell Square in London.

Police have detained a suspect and have commented that the suspects mental health is a significant factor.  They also haven't ruled out terrorism as a potential motive.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36972126

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Due to the fact people get stabbed in London every day I'm assuming the deceased was white and from a fairly affluent background.
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Cut through there only a few weeks back  - it's part of the route most visitors going to the British Musuem use if using the Underground to get about. The area is the heart of the 'lit' district of London, lots of publishing houses, literary agents, bookshops, plus more than a few language schools.

Russell Square is nice enough, but appears to attact boozing jakeys and others on something harder even in the daytime.

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37 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

One person has died and five are injured following a mass stabbing at Russell Square in London.

Police have detained a suspect and have commented that the suspects mental health is a significant factor.  They also haven't ruled out terrorism as a potential motive.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36972126

White guy, then?

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The terrorism angle is getting used and abused at every opportunity:

(So called) journalist "Could this be terrorist related?"

Policeman "We cannot rule it out"

Headline "Police cannot rule out terrorism in this incident".

 

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4 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

The terrorism angle is getting used and abused at every opportunity:

(So called) journalist "Could this be terrorist related?"

Policeman "We cannot rule it out"

Headline "Police cannot rule out terrorism in this incident".

 

The BBC World Service rolled out "terrorism expert" Frank Gardner shortly after news of the recent German attacks broke.  He claimed he would be "staggered" if it wasn't terrorist related as it "bore all the hallmarks" etc. They had him on again a few days later for his expert opinion on something else with no mention of the fact that he'd made a complete baws of his German analysis.

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1 minute ago, Dee Man said:

The BBC World Service rolled out "terrorism expert" Frank Gardner shortly after news of the recent German attacks broke.  He claimed he would be "staggered" if it wasn't terrorist related as it "bore all the hallmarks" etc. They had him on again a few days later for his expert opinion on something else with no mention of the fact that he'd made a complete baws of his German analysis.

Frank Gardner is the BBC Security correspondent so he would've been speaking in that capacity rather than as an outside expert being interviewed.  To be fair to him, considering the attack in Munich was similar to previous terrorist attacks (random shooting in populated area) and there had been a series of attacks in Germany confirmed to be at the very least inspired by extreme Islamist ideology, speculating that the Munich shootings were likely to be linked to the same isn't a huge leap.

Max Abrams is a professor of political science at Northeastern University and coined the phrase 'loon wolf' for a lot of the attacks that we are seeing.  Previously terrorist organisations put efforts into training and indoctrinating recruits, then planning and executing co-ordinated attacks.  This was risky, cost a lot of time and money and had mixed results.  What IS appear to be doing now is simply stating "attack and kill people in any way you can" to anyone who decides to hitch their wagon to IS.  Thus you end up with violent oddballs carrying out horrific acts and then claiming it's IS.  It makes them very difficult to predict and prevent.  There's always been a crossover of mental health and terrorism (not just Islamist, look at some of the horrors committed in Northern Ireland or David Copeland) and I think that quite a few of those convicted of terrorist offences are likely to have ended up doing something simlar anyway (the Lee Rigby murderers are both now in Broadmoor, the guy convicted last week of the Tube attack).  There's something poisonous about extremist ideology that attracts the paranoid, the violent, the irrational. 

Of course, we don't know anything about this specific incident at the moment.

 

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9 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Frank Gardner is the BBC Security correspondent so he would've been speaking in that capacity rather than as an outside expert being interviewed.  To be fair to him, considering the attack in Munich was similar to previous terrorist attacks (random shooting in populated area) and there had been a series of attacks in Germany confirmed to be at the very least inspired by extreme Islamist ideology, speculating that the Munich shootings were likely to be linked to the same isn't a huge leap.

Max Abrams is a professor of political science at Northeastern University and coined the phrase 'loon wolf' for a lot of the attacks that we are seeing.  Previously terrorist organisations put efforts into training and indoctrinating recruits, then planning and executing co-ordinated attacks.  This was risky, cost a lot of time and money and had mixed results.  What IS appear to be doing now is simply stating "attack and kill people in any way you can" to anyone who decides to hitch their wagon to IS.  Thus you end up with violent oddballs carrying out horrific acts and then claiming it's IS.  It makes them very difficult to predict and prevent.  There's always been a crossover of mental health and terrorism (not just Islamist, look at some of the horrors committed in Northern Ireland or David Copeland) and I think that quite a few of those convicted of terrorist offences are likely to have ended up doing something simlar anyway (the Lee Rigby murderers are both now in Broadmoor, the guy convicted last week of the Tube attack).  There's something poisonous about extremist ideology that attracts the paranoid, the violent, the irrational. 

Of course, we don't know anything about this specific incident at the moment.

 

'Loon Wolf' Forfar fans then

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9 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Frank Gardner is the BBC Security correspondent so he would've been speaking in that capacity rather than as an outside expert being interviewed.  To be fair to him, considering the attack in Munich was similar to previous terrorist attacks (random shooting in populated area) and there had been a series of attacks in Germany confirmed to be at the very least inspired by extreme Islamist ideology, speculating that the Munich shootings were likely to be linked to the same isn't a huge leap.

 

The point is it was pure speculation and he was miles out. I'll do guesswork on solving crimes for half his salary if that's all the job entails. 

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