Heads Gone (The 8MileBU Awards)

[Cardinal Richelieu]

15 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

It's ages since I read the book or watched the film, so I might be getting this wrong, but I think they left out the scene in the book where Spud is homeless on the the street trying to inject into his leg stump after failing to find a vein in his cock. Maybe it was another character.

That was Swanney who lost his leg after injecting into an artery instead of a vein. They actually filmed him in the hospital but deleted it from the final cut. 

 I think it was Renton who injected into his cock. 

Edit: Tempted to change the thread title to Leg's Gone 

Edited April 24, 2020 by Cardinal Richelieu

[Shandon Par]

3 minutes ago, Cardinal Richelieu said:

I think it was Renton who injected into his cock. 

“I’ve never touched the stuff” claims young Rent Boy

[Stellaboz]

“I’ve never touched the stuff” claims young Rent Boy

That b*****d stole tapes from John Menzies!

[Sergeant Wilson]

I've read all the books and seen the films and the representation of the lifestyles etc might not be glamorous but it's still a bit removed from the reality of problematic drug use.

Maybe in Edinburgh they were all cool and into Iggy Pop, it's a bit less like that in Airdrie.

[weirdcal]

That was Swanney who lost his leg after injecting into an artery instead of a vein. They actually filmed him in the hospital but deleted it from the final cut. 
 I think it was Renton who injected into his cock. 

Didn't Irvine Welsh play swanney in the film?
I preferred the book to the film, alot skipped or changes made to support characters that couldn't go into T2 that appears in porno.
I actually liked porno, just times had moved on from a lot of the premise and they couldn't use the book for much of the script.

[Stellaboz]

There are videos on Youtube with the director talking about how the scriptwriter couldn't make it work, ripped up the whole thing and started from a fresh perspective. I'll try find them later because if you watch them, you'll start to see where the film T2 actually comes from.  Maybe it'll help some of you appreciate it more. 

[Dee Man]

3 hours ago, KnightswoodBear said:

The scene in the orange halls is the only bit of T2 that comes anywhere close to anything from the original, in my opinion.  The PIN number (get it fucking up you) bit was mildly amusing in the book.

The rest of the film is fucking garbage though.

That bit about nicking the wallets and having an educated guess of 1690 as the PIN is out of one of Welsh's other books but I'll be fucked if I can remember which one. 

2 hours ago, Shandon Par said:

I’d say to give The Blade Artist a go too as it was out not long before the film and is a delicious bit of Begie is he?/isn’t he? still a psycho. Some P&B poster was boxing at the book launch after party IIRC as background entertainment and in charge of the tunes.

Dead Men’s trousers was enjoyable too, with some truly despicable Sick Boy behaviour.

 

The Blade Artist was a tremendous read. 

I seem to remember Maribou Stork Nightmares was sensational although that could possibly be be put down to a combination of the fact it was possibly the first book I read of my own will outwith school and the novelty factor of reading a book being written in Scottish dialect. I think I'll read that again.

Filth was nuts for the tapeworm monologues being superimposed over the other text. 

The Roswell Incident short story in The Children of Albion Rovers is v. funny. Aliens fighting Hibs casuals.

Bedroom Secrets of the Masterchefs is the only Welsh book I couldn't get into and had to bin it after a few chapters.

Has anyone heard an Irvine Welsh audiobook? Does he narrate them and if not, what's the narrator like?

Thank you. 

[Shandon Par]

16 minutes ago, Stellaboz said:

19 minutes ago, Shandon Par said:

“I’ve never touched the stuff” claims young Rent Boy

That b*****d stole tapes from John Menzies!

You’ve given me a great idea. Train him to shoplift. Too fast to get caught. He went in some random’s house the other day when out for a walk.

[Stellaboz]

1 minute ago, Shandon Par said:

You’ve given me a great idea. Train him to shoplift. Too fast to get caught. He went in some random’s house the other day when out for a walk.

I'm happy to accept 40% of any loot. 

[The OP]

14 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

 

Maybe in Edinburgh they were all cool and into Iggy Pop, it's a bit less like that in Airdrie.

Lots of 1690 PINs but.

[Dee Man]

4 minutes ago, Shandon Par said:

You’ve given me a great idea. Train him to shoplift. Too fast to get caught. He went in some random’s house the other day when out for a walk.

A guy around our old 'hood taught his dog to steal folks washing and take them back to his place. I lost a grey Pervert hoody to some thieving bassa and it was either that mutt or some sticky fingered human. 

[AsimButtHitsASix]

53 minutes ago, The OP said:

It’s better than pretending drugs don’t feel good then finding out they do and wondering if all the other warnings were a lie, as was the approach in schools.

Been a while since I read it so don't know if it's from Trainspotting or something Irvine Welsh said about his own experiences but, basically, he was saying how there were all these warnings from the Government about how weed turned people into crazy lunatics but then they saw with their own eyes how it done the opposite.

Then there were warnings about how people were dying because of speed but they never noticed anyone dying at the gigs where everyone was out of their tits on the stuff.

By the time they heard warnings about how deadly heroin was they didn't believe it until they were already smacked out of their tits and hooked to the stuff

[KnightswoodBear]

19 minutes ago, Dee Man said:

That bit about nicking the wallets and having an educated guess of 1690 as the PIN is out of one of Welsh's other books but I'll be fucked if I can remember which one. 

 

It's Porno.  It's Spud's cousin Dode from Glasgow that they scam, if I remember.

[Shandon Par]

16 minutes ago, Stellaboz said:

I'm happy to accept 40% of any loot. 

He raided the kitchen of a cafe in Morningside once. Will see if he can turn his attention to size 10 shoes. 

[Stellaboz]

7 minutes ago, KnightswoodBear said:

It's Porno.  It's Spud's cousin Dode from Glasgow that they scam, if I remember.

And Sick Boy shags a munter from a bank. 

[The OP]

19 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

Been a while since I read it so don't know if it's from Trainspotting or something Irvine Welsh said about his own experiences but, basically, he was saying how there were all these warnings from the Government about how weed turned people into crazy lunatics but then they saw with their own eyes how it done the opposite.

Then there were warnings about how people were dying because of speed but they never noticed anyone dying at the gigs where everyone was out of their tits on the stuff.

By the time they heard warnings about how deadly heroin was they didn't believe it until they were already smacked out of their tits and hooked to the stuff

Agreed, my main memory was being given the impression of ecstasy being very, very likely to kill you if you took one then hearing about my brother and his mates taking it lots of times and still being alive. Made you doubt everything they told you about heroin and crack.

Edited April 24, 2020 by The OP

[AsimButtHitsASix]

11 minutes ago, The OP said:

Agreed, my main memory was being given the impression of ecstasy being very, very likely to kill you if you took one then hearing about my brother and his mates taking it lots of times and still being alive. Made you doubt everything they told you about heroin and crack.

I mind the images of Leah Bates being plastered everywhere growing up showing how this young, fit, healthy lassie only took one pill and died and you should steer well clear.

Years later ye find out she had taken half a pill, wasn't out dancing or that, and died because of water on the brain because she was following government advice to drink tonnes of water to stay hydrated while on disco biscuits. Poor lass.

[Cardinal Richelieu]

51 minutes ago, weirdcal said:

Didn't Irvine Welsh play swanney in the film?
I preferred the book to the film, alot skipped or changes made to support characters that couldn't go into T2 that appears in porno.
I actually liked porno, just times had moved on from a lot of the premise and they couldn't use the book for much of the script.

Stop getting Bond Welsh wrong!

Swanney was played by Peter Mullan. Irvine Welsh played the other dealer, Mikey Forrester, who sold Renton his suppositories. He also appears in the sequel, where he seems to have been promoted to become a fence. 

 

[ICTChris]

I mind the images of Leah Bates being plastered everywhere growing up showing how this young, fit, healthy lassie only took one pill and died and you should steer well clear.

Years later ye find out she had taken half a pill, wasn't out dancing or that, and died because of water on the brain because she was following government advice to drink tonnes of water to stay hydrated while on disco biscuits. Poor lass.

I don’t think that the government gave advice on how much water you should drink when taking ecstasy. People were told by their mates to drink water while taking pills, she took one and then drank seven litres of water in an hour and a half.

I remember it at the time as I was bang in the target group for things like this and I took E a few times years later. I do remember reading about the fact that at that time literally hundreds of thousands of pills were being taken every weekend.

I sometimes wonder if there have been any studies on the long term effects of recreational drug use. Mostly it’s people with severe drug addictions that are studied but what about people who took E every weekend for years in their 20s? Difficult to study but I’m sure it’d be interesting.

[Shandon Par]

55 minutes ago, Stellaboz said:

There are videos on Youtube with the director talking about how the scriptwriter couldn't make it work, ripped up the whole thing and started from a fresh perspective. I'll try find them later because if you watch them, you'll start to see where the film T2 actually comes from.  Maybe it'll help some of you appreciate it more. 

Like your style 'Boz. Explain to folk why they are wrong when they claim not to like a film. Always said you were the Mark Kermode of the Pars support.