coprolite Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: If the NI protocol is so bad why not just get rid of the person(s) who negotiated and approved it? Assasinate Barnier? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapy FFC Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: If the NI protocol is so bad why not just get rid of the person(s) who negotiated and approved it? Or at the very least, remove the peerage from the person that negotiated it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Bring it on. Why are you saying that ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: Why are you saying that ? It needs to be determined one way or the other. The big word in the article is ‘could’. Still the phoney war. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 33 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: Why are you saying that ? Cause he is a troll 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 37 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: It needs to be determined one way or the other. The big word in the article is ‘could’. Still the phoney war. It WAS determined by painstaking negotiation, and any 'phoney war' has been the result of mendacity on the part of the UK Government. But you may know better of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duries Air Freshener Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 I thought wee Jeffrey spoke well on the steps there. Very statesmanlike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Ditching parts of the NI protocol seems like a bad idea. Britain is already a horrible dump. Probably don't want to make it worse m8. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, coprolite said: Assasinate Barnier? Wasn’t thinking of that but if there has to be collateral damage then c’est la vie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Well, if you're going to break your own UK laws, you might as well go all out and break international law on a Brexit treaty you actually helped shape and signed off. While you're on a roll, why not at the same time deport people fleeing all sorts of horrors to Rwanda. The direction of travel we are seeing by the Tories is as worrying as it is despicable. What a fucking shower of disgusting people these Tories are. Yet some still applaud them. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Photos I’ve seen of Liz Truss over the last couple of days suggest she’s trying to morph into Thatcher, probably just in time for a leadership challenge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Saw something from the ONS stating that UK exports to the EU are at their highest ever. Am I right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zern Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Liz Truss, UK Foreign secretary, attempts to say taoiseach: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Saw something from the ONS stating that UK exports to the EU are at their highest ever. Am I right? The increase is mainly gas and oil to fill up their reserves due to the Ukraine thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Surely the easy solution to the NI protocol issue is to re-establish the border between NI and the ROI. Problem solved and probably very little controversy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Saw something from the ONS stating that UK exports to the EU are at their highest ever. Am I right? Ultra-right if your posts are any guide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: Ultra-right if your posts are any guide. That too but after all the disparaging remarks on here about Brexit, quite remarkable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 On 14/06/2022 at 07:58, Granny Danger said: Photos I’ve seen of Liz Truss over the last couple of days suggest she’s trying to morph into Thatcher, probably just in time for a leadership challenge. Yes she certainly has been on this trend for a wee while now. Almost as if they don't know how unpopular she was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Saw something from the ONS stating that UK exports to the EU are at their highest ever. Am I right? 3 hours ago, Snafu said: Going up monthly. https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/bulletins/uktrade/april2022 I take it this is without that friendly membership discount though? A cursory glance at that report shows exports slightly higher than pre brexit, but the figures are on a different basis. Pre brexit we didn't actually have imports and exports to count but did have a reporting system for inter-state transfers of goods (intrastat). It's hard to say how accurate the reporting was and not everything was counted-low value consignments were excluded. We now have actual imports and exports of goods to count. The services figure is based on surveys, so has all the uncertainty that entails. I can't quite see how things going to NI from mainland UK are treated or how stuff is counted going from NI over its land border. As @welshbairn says, the biggest single increase is in fuel, which is hardly structural and quite unusual in that most countries don't have a domestic oil extraction industry to protect and fuel can go most places without tarrifs. Also the price has increased by way more than inflation so there will be a big price component to this increase. A 150% increase where the price has doubled is something like a 25% increase in volume. Like employment or growth data, this stuff is useful for seeing long term trends but looking at changes month by month is trying to find a signal in noise. One trend is that our trade balance deficit is still increasing. Maybe in five years or so we could draw some useful conclusion about how brexit is going from the headline stats but not yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 45 minutes ago, coprolite said: A cursory glance at that report shows exports slightly higher than pre brexit, but the figures are on a different basis. Pre brexit we didn't actually have imports and exports to count but did have a reporting system for inter-state transfers of goods (intrastat). It's hard to say how accurate the reporting was and not everything was counted-low value consignments were excluded. We now have actual imports and exports of goods to count. The services figure is based on surveys, so has all the uncertainty that entails. I can't quite see how things going to NI from mainland UK are treated or how stuff is counted going from NI over its land border. As @welshbairn says, the biggest single increase is in fuel, which is hardly structural and quite unusual in that most countries don't have a domestic oil extraction industry to protect and fuel can go most places without tarrifs. Also the price has increased by way more than inflation so there will be a big price component to this increase. A 150% increase where the price has doubled is something like a 25% increase in volume. Like employment or growth data, this stuff is useful for seeing long term trends but looking at changes month by month is trying to find a signal in noise. One trend is that our trade balance deficit is still increasing. Maybe in five years or so we could draw some useful conclusion about how brexit is going from the headline stats but not yet. Thanks for that. Anyhow, hardly a ‘farce’. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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