Brexit slowly becoming a Farce.

[Detournement]

4 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

 

"I would do anything to stop Brexit, but I won't do that"

Looks a bit like Swinson as well!

[Cerberus]

"I would do anything to stop Brexit, but I won't do that"

Looks a bit like Swinson as well!

How dare you‽

[Granny Danger]

25 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

3 years and this is the tinpot idea that Corbyn comes up with. One that's got a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding. 

Where the f*ck will Labour go when Johnston survives the VoC  and sees his position strengthened ?

Shit analysis.

Corbyn has fucked up most things but he’s got this one spot on.  The Tory austerity enabler Swinson is the one who’s screwing it up.

[welshbairn]

This has to be the most ineffective opposition in history with a minority government. All about ego and nothing about prioritising getting rid of the c***s, or getting anything done whatsoever. Johnson and Cummings must be trying not to chuckle while snorting their next lines.

[Paco]

Astonishing anyone can blame Corbyn for literally providing a solution that the Lib Dem leader has rejected for personal gain, but has Tory MPs giving it serious consideration. Maybe it wouldn’t work but Swinson has made it impossible to get off the ground with a reactionary statement.

Would Cable have been so stupid? Is Swinson actually going to come out and say she’d prefer a Tory as Prime Minister than Jeremy Corbyn?

[dirty dingus]

Ha Ruth crumbles as usual.

[Granny Danger]

10 minutes ago, Paco said:

Astonishing anyone can blame Corbyn for literally providing a solution that the Lib Dem leader has rejected for personal gain, but has Tory MPs giving it serious consideration. Maybe it wouldn’t work but Swinson has made it impossible to get off the ground with a reactionary statement.

Would Cable have been so stupid? Is Swinson actually going to come out and say she’d prefer a Tory as Prime Minister than Jeremy Corbyn?

Swinson has already been an enabler of an austerity driven coalition government; its no surprise that she would have Johnson ahead of Corbyn.

The Lib Dems do not want structural change to society,  they are happy to tinker at the edges in the knowledge that any progress can be wiped out in the blink of an eye.

It’s not too long ago the had a sky fairy believing homophobe as leader.

BTW there are a number of Labour MPs who would have a Tory ahead of Corbyn.

 

[Jim McLean's Ghost]

15 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

This has to be the most ineffective opposition in history with a minority government. All about ego and nothing about prioritising getting rid of the c***s, or getting anything done whatsoever. Johnson and Cummings must be trying not to chuckle while snorting their next lines.

If the opposition is so ineffective why has the government failed to pass their flagship (only) policy in over 2 years. And suffered the largest defeats in British history.

 

[WhiteRoseKillie]

Swinson on C4 news just then, saying that both Clarke and Harman have stated they would take the job of interim PM if asked. She looked incredibly shifty and flustered when the interviewer pushed her to this point. I get the feeling this bit of the interview will come as some surprise to both Clarke and Harman.

Swinson really letting her hatred for Corbyn - and it does appear to merit the term - make her look petty, vindictive and, in all honesty, out of touch.

 

 

[Ira Gaines]

25 minutes ago, Paco said:

Astonishing anyone can blame Corbyn for literally providing a solution that the Lib Dem leader has rejected for personal gain, but has Tory MPs giving it serious consideration. Maybe it wouldn’t work but Swinson has made it impossible to get off the ground with a reactionary statement.

Would Cable have been so stupid? Is Swinson actually going to come out and say she’d prefer a Tory as Prime Minister than Jeremy Corbyn?

Wouldn't say I'm astonished by it. It kind of points to the tribal nature of politics these days. It gets more and more common to see people refuse to accept that someone they don't like could EVER do something positive. You see it constantly. And the same applies vice versa, with people not being able to accept that certain politicians and parties can get it wrong.

You could probably put Swinson in the former bracket.

[welshbairn]

26 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

If the opposition is so ineffective why has the government failed to pass their flagship (only) policy in over 2 years. And suffered the largest defeats in British history.

 

Because they're are an utterly split and dysfunctional minority government. The question is how the opposition have allowed them to stay in power. I'm not just blaming Corbyn, it's a failure of all the opposition parties to work together and bring the Tory rebels along. But mainly Corbyn because of his half arsed attitude to brexit.

Edited August 15, 2019 by welshbairn

[vikingTON]

1 hour ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

They will be the party of anti-brexit while the Lib Dems will need to explain why they didn't stop No Deal.

^^^ also tuned to the moon

Leaving aside the fact that both historical precedent and the parliamentary arithmetic do not add up for a Mumbleclown government, all that any caretaker administration ca do is secure a short-term extension to Article 50 to fight a general election. And what would the straightforward narrative of that campaign be? 'MPs in the Westminster bubble conspired to put Jeremy fucking Corbyn into power to delay Brexit'. The Tories would then win a landslide and rattle through the most hard right Brexit imaginable. 

The Mumbleclown is the least popular party leader in the country; he's also the least popular Labour leader in that party's history. Theresa fucking May after two years of abject failure and humilation was still more popular than him. Making the Mumbleclown PM for even a nanosecond would be electoral asbestos for any and every party complicit in it. Under any leader of the opposition that idea would be unlikely to succeed: under this one it is absolutely ludicrous and a suicide note for an entire generation. 

Edited August 15, 2019 by vikingTON

[vikingTON]

54 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

Swinson really letting her hatred for Corbyn - and it does appear to merit the term - make her look petty, vindictive and, in all honesty, out of touch.

Most of the UK public hate The Mumbleclown as well so the only people 'out of touch' on that front are gormless Labour cheerleaders like yourself. 

[Jim McLean's Ghost]

5 minutes ago, virginton said:

^^^ also tuned to the moon

Leaving aside the fact that both historical precedent and the parliamentary arithmetic do not add up for a Mumbleclown government, all that any caretaker administration ca do is secure a short-term extension to Article 50 to fight a general election. And what would the straightforward narrative of that campaign be? 'MPs in the Westminster bubble conspired to put Jeremy fucking Corbyn into power to delay Brexit'. The Tories would then win a landslide and rattle through the most hard right Brexit imaginable. 

The Mumbleclown is the least popular party leader in the country; he's also the least popular Labour leader in that party's history. Theresa fucking May after two years of abject failure and humilation was still more popular than him. Making the Mumbleclown PM for even a nanosecond would be electoral asbestos for any and every party complicit in it. Under any leader of the opposition that idea would be unlikely to succeed: under this one it is absolutely ludicrous and a suicide note for an entire generation. 

^^^voting Tory at the next election then.

Gutted for you.

[WhiteRoseKillie]

1 hour ago, welshbairn said:

This has to be the most ineffective opposition in history with a minority government. All about ego and nothing about prioritising getting rid of the c***s, or getting anything done whatsoever. Johnson and Cummings must be trying not to chuckle while snorting their next lines.

So ineffective that the Tories have been unable to enact their flagship policy -in fact, the only policy that matters to some of them. (May certainly wanted it to be her legacy)

So ineffective that Corbyn's about to lay into his third Tory PM, who no longer has a majority. Rather than blame Corbyn (because it's all his fault, innit? sez so in the paper), blame Cameron and Clegg and their miserable, self-serving, FTPA. Without that miserable piece of legislative shit, this lot would have been gone long before May had her wee cry in the street. 

Given the legal shackles placed on the opposition, idiots like Swinson and Party traitors like Mann and Gapes, the Chuka tingers et al., I'd submit that this Labour Party has provided not only more than decent opposition but, in an initially "who he/she" Front Bench, sound foundations for a Socially reponsible way forward. 

[WhiteRoseKillie]

1 hour ago, Paco said:

Astonishing anyone can blame Corbyn for literally providing a solution that the Lib Dem leader has rejected for personal gain, but has Tory MPs giving it serious consideration. Maybe it wouldn’t work but Swinson has made it impossible to get off the ground with a reactionary statement.

Would Cable have been so stupid? Is Swinson actually going to come out and say she’d prefer a Tory as Prime Minister than Jeremy Corbyn?

She already has and, according to her appearance on C4 News, Ken Clarke has agreed to take the job if asked. I get the feeling Ken might have been surprised to find that out on the Telly.

[WhiteRoseKillie]

6 minutes ago, virginton said:

Most of the UK public hate The Mumbleclown as well so the only people 'out of touch' on that front are gormless Labour cheerleaders like yourself. 

No, many of the electorate - like yourself, for instance - don't respect him. But hate is a strong word, one which I feel is justified in the way Swinson talks about Corbyn. You're probably too young to relate to this, but she seems to be projecting her own feelings of self-loathing (for jumping into bed with the Tories for a sniff of power, and a ministerial car) onto someone who has reached the status of (massively popular) LOTO while retaining his principles.

[doulikefish]

Lets see what the mooth has to say

[welshbairn]

22 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

So ineffective that the Tories have been unable to enact their flagship policy -in fact, the only policy that matters to some of them. (May certainly wanted it to be her legacy)

So ineffective that Corbyn's about to lay into his third Tory PM, who no longer has a majority. Rather than blame Corbyn (because it's all his fault, innit? sez so in the paper), blame Cameron and Clegg and their miserable, self-serving, FTPA. Without that miserable piece of legislative shit, this lot would have been gone long before May had her wee cry in the street. 

Given the legal shackles placed on the opposition, idiots like Swinson and Party traitors like Mann and Gapes, the Chuka tingers et al., I'd submit that this Labour Party has provided not only more than decent opposition but, in an initially "who he/she" Front Bench, sound foundations for a Socially reponsible way forward. 

So ineffective that Boris Johnson is now Prime Minister and leading us to a hard brexit, because Corbyn can't unite the opposition on the one thing they all agree on. He can't even agree with himself.

[vikingTON]

21 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

^^^voting Tory at the next election then.

Gutted for you.

Will continue voting for the only show in town champ, while you waste your ballot on another losing donkey in a red rosette; no doubt with Union Jack cufflinks as well.

Thanks for playing anyway.