welshbairn Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, BawWatchin said: and what if the tool refuses to step down? What if the tool decideds that seeing as the country is literally full of tools he may as well be top tool? He'd last a nanosecond. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Just now, welshbairn said: He'd last a nanosecond. In a country full of tools? Nah, don't think so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 It doesn't fucking matter if he's a nazi war criminal, it's a mechanism to stop a hard brexit and get a GE. He can get the numbers, Corbyn can't. It's not about who's the best person to lead the country, it's about finding a tool for a specific job that will last a matter of weeks.Absolutely gone at this lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, welshbairn said: It doesn't fucking matter if he's a nazi war criminal, it's a mechanism to stop a hard brexit and get a GE. He can get the numbers, Corbyn can't. It's not about who's the best person to lead the country, it's about finding a tool for a specific job that will last a matter of weeks. What if Corbyn and the Labour front bench won't support Thatcher's Chancellor as PM? Then he doesn't have the numbers. Edit: The SNP will not support a Tory either. Edited August 15, 2019 by Jim McLean's Ghost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: What if Corbyn and the Labour front bench won't support Thatcher's Chancellor as PM? Then he doesn't have the numbers. Edit: The SNP will not support a Tory either. Then we slide into a hard brexit. I think the SNP would support anyone who could get shot of Boris, stop a hard brexit and kick off a general election. Parties don't matter for this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) On 14/08/2019 at 20:04, Bob Mahelp said: Yeap, and while this attracts a small minority of the converted, the whole package does not and will not attract 'middle range' voters who aren't interested in socialism. A couple of days ago I noticed, and I can't find the reference right now,.... that a company called Western Power Distribution announced its annual financial results for the year ending March 2019. They made £600M net profits on a turnover of around £2 Billion. From those profits they will pay dividends of £304 Million to the shareholders. Those profit margins are absolutely astounding. Western Power Distribution is the outfit that prior to privatisation was part of SWEB, the South Western Electriciy Board. WPD distributes electricity to about 8 Million customers in the West and South West of England. They have no competition. WPD is a subsidiary of an American corporation called PPL ( formerly known as Pennsylvania Power & LIght ) The shareholders who receive the profits made by WPD are the shareholders in PPL. That is, all the money disappears out of Britain. You don't actually have to be particularly into socialism to question a privatised, unregulated system that enables gross overcharging and all the profits to disappear abroad. My basic point is that much of what Corbyn proposes is in fact sensible, and reasonable, and would attract what you called 'middle range' voters. Edited August 16, 2019 by beefybake 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: Then we slide into a hard brexit. I think the SNP would support anyone who could get shot of Boris, stop a hard brexit and kick off a general election. Parties don't matter for this. The Official opposition and the third largest party are on board. Swinson needs to get her and her small party into line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Putting any sort of trust in a member of the most morally bankrupt arseholes in the country doesn't seem like the best idea in the world to me tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Just now, Jim McLean's Ghost said: The Official opposition and the third largest party are on board. Swinson needs to get her and her small party into line. The independents and a few tories are also needed. And you have Kate Howie and her mates to worry about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 You are missing the point here WRK. Only right wingers are allowed to object to potential PMs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Just now, welshbairn said: The independents and a few tories are also needed. And you have Kate Howie and her mates to worry about. That barrier exists for anyone. There is no one apart from Jo Swinson who says Corbyn can't do this. in fact there have been Tories saying they need to back Corbyn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Only took 2 weeks before Swinson has went full tory 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 It's a thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 years and this is the tinpot idea that Corbyn comes up with. One that's got a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding. Where the f*ck will Labour go when Johnston survives the VoC and sees his position strengthened ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Bob Mahelp said: 3 years and this is the tinpot idea that Corbyn comes up with. One that's got a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding. Where the f*ck will Labour go when Johnston survives the VoC and sees his position strengthened ? They will be the party of anti-brexit while the Lib Dems will need to explain why they didn't stop No Deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Jo has sent a letter to jezza 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 The Mumbleclown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: They will be the party of anti-brexit while the Lib Dems will need to explain why they didn't stop No Deal. They're not the 'anti Brexit' party though. Nowhere in the story of this crackpot idea does Corbyn say that Labour will support remain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Detournement Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Boris will have to call an election anyway and hope for a Brexit bounce. The People's Vote strategy must have be designed by Neil Doncaster. There's no majority for a second referendum anyway and it'll involve having an unelected government for at least 9 months. I'm sure that will would work out just fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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