SANTAN Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, NotThePars said: Just not Corbyn eh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Well-known imprint of Novara media, the LSE 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: Problem with this ICT is both Sky News and BBC pulled away before Blackfords speech to cover the vaccine conference. Afterwards Sky News gave a debrief of debate and failed to mention Blackfords speech (concentrating more on May's barb) Majority of Scots probably won't get to see speech and if so it will watered down. I didn't know that, but it's not exactly surprising. I watched uninterrupted coverage on the Parliament channel. Hopefully it will be posted in its entirety on youtube soon. Now up on twitter : Edited December 30, 2020 by ICTJohnboy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 This is all Jeremy Corbyn's fault is quite the take here imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 It's started already, Labour & KS would've been better abstaining! Quote Michael Gove, the Cabinet Office minister, is speaking now. He says Sir Keir Starmer’s speech was eloquent, but not sincere. It was like his attitude to Jeremy Corbyn, he says. He says Starmer tried to keep the UK tied to EU structures. But now he is saying that he will not even mention Europe in Labour leaflets at the next election. This is similar to the way Starmer used to support Corbyn, but now has distanced himself from him, he says. I see this being the line of attack until the next GE - "Starmer's a remainer, always was, always will be" and will take us back into the EU by the back door if you vote Labour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: This is all Jeremy Corbyn's fault is quite the take here imo. I've not really seen that, I've seen some people say it didnt help that Corbyn was useless on the issue then NotthePars come in and try and say that Corbyn did the most out of anyone for Remain campaigning, which is also quite the take.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, Stormzy said: I've not really seen that, I've seen some people say it didnt help that Corbyn was useless on the issue then NotthePars come in and try and say that Corbyn did the most out of anyone for Remain campaigning, which is also quite the take.. That's not what NTP said though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 The Tories will have their short soundbites in place for 2024 already now... 'Beat Covid' (whatever the truth or otherwise of that is) 'Levelled up' (across the whole of the UK, vacuous, meaningless words, but likely to appeal to the Gammons of the North even though their standard of living will have dropped by then), and of course 'Got Brexit done' They will indeed harp on about, Labour will try and re-negotiate this wonderful, free-trade, took back control of our fish deal....'our' Brexit isn't safe with them. Admittedly, it will be difficult, though not impossible, for Labour to break through in England with that background. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 The tax thing is a complete red herring. The UK already has all the rules it needs to comply with it. The UK and Germany were the driving force behind the BEPS project at the OECD, which is where the EU rules come from. The UK committed to BEPS and is still in the OECD. Otherwise, it would have been a logical motivation to leave. As it is, the only logical motivation is xenophobia. The UK may already have the rules in place to comply but it does not in any way have the will to comply. Under the EU failure through neglect could be punished by massive fines. Out of the EU the rules can be safely ignored. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 53 minutes ago, btb said: It's started already, Labour & KS would've been better abstaining! I see this being the line of attack until the next GE - "Starmer's a remainer, always was, always will be" and will take us back into the EU by the back door if you vote Labour. By the time of the next GE quite a lot of the electorate may be amenable to re-entry by any door. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: That's not what NTP said though. Not precisely, I can't quite see anyone saying that "it's all Jeremy Corbyn's fault" either though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: 4 hours ago, coprolite said: The tax thing is a complete red herring. The UK already has all the rules it needs to comply with it. The UK and Germany were the driving force behind the BEPS project at the OECD, which is where the EU rules come from. The UK committed to BEPS and is still in the OECD. Otherwise, it would have been a logical motivation to leave. As it is, the only logical motivation is xenophobia. Out of the EU the rules can be safely ignored. Absolutely. Sell immigration issues to the gammons, while quietly working in the background to get around the tax laws, and open up public services for private profit....the Tories are always going to Tory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Tory brexit deal and Ian Murrays assistant is resigning over it because she couldnt vote for a deal that harms scottish fishing and farming Only labour could make a total arse of it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 34 minutes ago, Stormzy said: Not precisely, I can't quite see anyone saying that "it's all Jeremy Corbyn's fault" either though. No ? You literally gave this post a green dot. Quote Corbyn had a huge conflict because he passionately believed in Brexit but he led a parliamentary party that was overwhelmingly Remain. That's what fucked the whole thing. 2 hours ago, NotThePars said: People really do just be saying anything 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) I wasn't blaming Corbyn for anything, it's just the way it was. My preference was for a Corbyn led Labour government, but it obviously didn't help having a cobbled together and constantly changing EU policy trying to please all factions of the party and ending up convincing no one. Edited December 30, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Ruth Davidson being given a hard time today by Ruth Davidson... Pleasing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: No ? You literally gave this post a green dot. 1 hour ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: That's not what you said though. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Wtf does that even mean m9 ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Stormzy said: NotthePars come in and try and say that Corbyn did the most out of anyone for Remain campaigning, which is also quite the take.. 1 hour ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: That's not what NTP said though. 1 hour ago, Stormzy said: Not precisely 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Wtf does that even mean m9 ? It means that you paraphrased someone, I did the same and then you played purposefully obtuse and said "they didn't say that" and I pointed out nobody said what you claimed in your paraphrasing either and now you're again acting obtuse because it involves your buddy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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