Wee Willie Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: Have you bothered to register with any of the online pollsters? Political polling companies use online respondents or telephone polls. Clipboard interviewers are usually working for commercial clients. It was my attempt at a joke. I'm as deaf as the proverbial door-nail so if any of them make a move in my direction I shout at them tae f**k off. Up tae now it's worked. Likewise the telephone. Me being deaf I only use it in emergencies. Online political polling. I thought that was whit P&B political forum was 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 24 minutes ago, welshbairn said: There were only 519 in the SNP sample. That's what counts. When you break down a sample into smaller categories the margin of error rises. 23 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: Not on a two option(Leave/Remain) question. 12 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: Based on the number of national SNP voters, that sample size would give you a margin of error of around 4%. Good to see you admitting you just make shit up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, Wee Willie said: It was my attempt at a joke.I'm as deaf as the proverbial door-nail so if any of them make a move in my direction I shout at them tae f**k off. Up tae now it's worked. Likewise the telephone. Me being deaf I only use it in emergencies. Online political polling. I thought that was whit P&B political forum was I ask if they're willing to pay for my opinions before telling them to take a hike. But how do you know that they're pollsters rather than e.g, charity workers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Am Featha Taigh Nan Clach Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 The margin for error for a sample size of 500 is still only 4%.I'm an SNP member, but more than happy to show up a few fellow Yes when they don't understand how statistics work 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German Jag Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Bishop Briggs said: Clause relates to post-Brexit deals. All the Gibraltar issues will be covered in the main Brexit deal. Large parts of Spain depend on British tourist and ex-pat spending. British holiday bookings are up around 40% compared to 18 months ago and hotel companies raised their prices by around a quarter. Spain would be crazy to use the EU to pick a needless fight over Gibraltar. Holiday bookings are up since people are hesitant about going to Turkey due to various bomb attacks. As regards raised prices, is that in actual euros, or the fact that the pound has lost a fair bit of value against the euro since the Brexit vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, welshbairn said: Good to see you admitting you just make shit up. Not at all. 1% is not a significant difference in an opinion poll. It does not change the fact that around a third of SNP voters want to Leave the EU. And that uncomfortable truth makes a lot of SNP supporters on here very angry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: Do you seriously think there were only the 519 SNP voters in the Scottish sample? The sample size in Scotland was 1102, similar to a national Scottish or British opinion poll. The margin of error would therefore be the same as an typical opinion poll. Got it? 32 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: Not on a two option(Leave/Remain) question. Nuff said. Edited March 31, 2017 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, German Jag said: Holiday bookings are up since people are hesitant about going to Turkey due to various bomb attacks. As regards raised prices, is that in actual euros, or the fact that the pound has lost a fair bit of value against the euro since the Brexit vote. Both. The Pound was lower against the Euro in 2008-9. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkyblue2 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 SNP voters who voted to leave the EU will mostly vote for independence I would imagine. The big question is how many unionists who voted to remain will now vote for independence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 The margin for error for a sample size of 500 is still only 4%.I'm an SNP member, but more than happy to show up a few fellow Yes when they don't understand how statistics work Tend to agree but would have to check the 500 sample was fairly representative of all SNP voters, no? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Am Featha Taigh Nan Clach Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 You would, but whatever way you look at it, a significant percentage (likely 30%+) of SNP voters voted Brexit. The important question is, what % view being part of the UK but outside EU as being favourable to being independent and in the EU 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 You would, but whatever way you look at it, a significant percentage (likely 30%+) of SNP voters voted Brexit. The important question is, what % view being part of the UK but outside EU as being favourable to being independent and in the EU My whole family voted brexit apart from me and everyone of them has stated they will vote yes,my polling sample was 11 not including me Just to add that includes nephews/nieces etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkyblue2 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, doulikefish said: My whole family voted brexit apart from me and everyone of them has stated they will vote yes,my polling sample was 11 not including me Just to add that includes nephews/nieces etc What was the margin for error? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Am Featha Taigh Nan Clach Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I think that of those who voted Yes/Leave or No/Remain, a higher percentage of Yes/Leave would still back independence than those who voted for No /Remain would still back No to independence. Is this (including likely swing in EU nationals) enough to tip the balance in favour of Yes to independence? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 What was the margin for error? 3-4% basically all my side are either a widow of a fisherman,used to own a boat ,son/daughter of a fisherman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 3-4% basically all my side are either a widow of a fisherman,used to own a boat ,son/daughter of a fisherman Do any of them like fish? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Snelders Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bishop Briggs said: The final Brexit deal will need to be ratified by all the Member States and the European Parliament. Clause 22 in the EU's draft guidelines is an unnecessary and provocative gesture by Tusk. His re-election is being opposed by Poland's governing Law & Justice Party which is part of the Tories' group in the European Parliament. It's better to get childish ego trips and pettiness over quickly and let Barnier and Davis get on with the serious negotiations. Do keep up. President Tusk was re-elected a couple of weeks ago, despite Poland's objections. Pretty stonking majority too. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/09/donald-tusk-re-elected-as-european-council-president-despite-polish-opposition Edited March 31, 2017 by Theo Snelders 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 How long until the ............but but but but BREXIT!" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Fair play to Bishop Briggs. His #itk patter is rancid and he gets shot down all over the shop but his forlorn hope attitude is unshakable. Or he's a mad wum. Whatever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 54 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: I ask if they're willing to pay for my opinions before telling them to take a hike. But how do you know that they're pollsters rather than e.g, charity workers? I dinnae but if you see how I'm dressed then they should be handin' me charity instead of the ither way roond. Onyway maist o' the clipboard lot deliberately ignore me. If ye can picture Albert Steptoe then that's me except I'm better looking and still got 18 o' my ain teeth 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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