Brexit slowly becoming a Farce.

[ICTJohnboy]

3 minutes ago, Principal Flutie said:

Nobody is forcing you to read it.

 

I don't want to miss anything.

[DublinMagyar]

^^^^^^^^^^
Steve Tyler found

[Granny Danger]

19 hours ago, welshbairn said:

Here's hoping.

https://www.thisisinsider.com/brexit-and-the-chance-of-a-second-referendum-2018-12

This reinforces all the polls that show there has been a significant change of view towards Brexit now that the likely implications are clearer.

Despite all the rhetoric, if the Tories push ahead with withdrawal they are doing so in the knowledge that it is no longer the default position for the majority.  Government by the minority for their minority interests has been a feature of U.K. politics for decades thanks to the flawed FPTP system at Westminster.

 

[O'Kelly Isley III]

This reinforces all the polls that show there has been a significant change of view towards Brexit now that the likely implications are clearer.
Despite all the rhetoric, if the Tories push ahead with withdrawal they are doing so in the knowledge that it is no longer the default position for the majority.  Government by the minority for their minority interests has been a feature of U.K. politics for decades thanks to the flawed FPTP system at Westminster.
 

All that is required is for a universally-respected figure to come out for repeal of Article 50. Meghan Markle, we're looking at YOU.

[Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier]

Just now, O'Kelly Isley III said:

Just now, Granny Danger said:

This reinforces all the polls that show there has been a significant change of view towards Brexit now that the likely implications are clearer.
Despite all the rhetoric, if the Tories push ahead with withdrawal they are doing so in the knowledge that it is no longer the default position for the majority.  Government by the minority for their minority interests has been a feature of U.K. politics for decades thanks to the flawed FPTP system at Westminster.
 

All that is required is for a universally-respected figure to come out for repeal of Article 50. Meghan Markle, we're looking at YOU.

Spat my tea all over my toast there! Haha

[John Lambies Doos]

All that is required is for a universally-respected figure to come out for repeal of Article 50. Meghan Markle, we're looking at YOU.

If she gets her tits out whilst doing it; I'll march

[Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier]

Just now, John Lambies Doos said:

2 hours ago, O said:

All that is required is for a universally-respected figure to come out for repeal of Article 50. Meghan Markle, we're looking at YOU.

If she gets her tits out whilst doing it; I'll march

Yuck.

[John Lambies Doos]

Yuck.

I'd change to Tetley if I were you!

[welshbairn]

3 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

This reinforces all the polls that show there has been a significant change of view towards Brexit now that the likely implications are clearer.

Despite all the rhetoric, if the Tories push ahead with withdrawal they are doing so in the knowledge that it is no longer the default position for the majority.  Government by the minority for their minority interests has been a feature of U.K. politics for decades thanks to the flawed FPTP system at Westminster.

 

If the margin hits 60/40 in the polls I think the clamour for another referendum would be irresistible. They should be campaigning now as if the vote was imminent. 

[Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier]

Just now, John Lambies Doos said:

Just now, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said:

Yuck.

I'd change to Tetley if I were you!

Much rather have Harry myself.

[stuckinthecarpark]

a democracy voted to leave europe so we are  leaving thank god

[lichtgilphead]

15 minutes ago, stuckinthecarpark said:

a democracy voted to leave europe so we are  leaving thank god

1) The UK isn't a democracy. Currently, only 650 of the UK parliament are elected. A further 793 are unelected, and all acts are officially brought into law by another unelected "sovereign"

2) The UK is part of Europe. It can't vote to leave a geographic entity. The referendum was about staying in or leaving the EU.

3) At the very least, there is a philosophical argument that there is no God, and the various belief systems all appear to have contradictions when you compare them. Which God are you asking us to thank?

Apart from these three major flaws, I think you have the basis of a great post there. Why not work on it?

[Billy Rubin]

15 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said:

1) The UK isn't a democracy. Currently, only 650 of the UK parliament are elected. A further 793 are unelected, and all acts are officially brought into law by another unelected "sovereign"

2) The UK is part of Europe. It can't vote to leave a geographic entity. The referendum was about staying in or leaving the EU.

3) At the very least, there is a philosophical argument that there is no God, and the various belief systems all appear to have contradictions when you compare them. Which God are you asking us to thank?

Apart from these three major flaws, I think you have the basis of a great post there. Why not work on it?

1)  A referendum is democratic.   The colours represented in parliament is irrelevant.   

2) correct. 

 

[lichtgilphead]

6 minutes ago, Billy Rubin said:

1)  A referendum is democratic.   The colours represented in parliament is irrelevant.   

2) correct. 

 

I'm not referring to the "colours" in parliament. The UK parliament is made up of the (elected) House of Commons and the (unelected) House of Lords. In most (not all) cases, a bill must be passed by both houses before going to the (unelected) monarch for signature.

In addition, the undemocratic UK parliament can overrule any democratic referendum result at any time that they choose if they are minded to do so. 

[Billy Rubin]

2 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said:

I'm not referring to the "colours" in parliament. The UK parliament is made up of the (elected) House of Commons and the (unelected) House of Lords. In most (not all) cases, a bill must be passed by both houses before going to the (unelected) monarch for signature.

In addition, the undemocratic UK parliament can overrule any democratic referendum result at any time that they choose if they are minded to do so. 

Any noise about the failing with FPTP or the travel between a white/green paper to royal assent is completely irrelevant to the fact that brexit was a democratic decision by the UK electorate.   
It would have been equally poor if Yes Scotland suggested they'd won the 2014 vote, and thankfully they didn't.   

Parliamentary process is sacrosanct and the UK must Brexit and idiots suggesting we didn't know what we voted for must be muted.  

[Tibbermoresaint]

2 minutes ago, Billy Rubin said:

Any noise about the failing with FPTP or the travel between a white/green paper to royal assent is completely irrelevant to the fact that brexit was a democratic decision by the UK electorate.   
It would have been equally poor if Yes Scotland suggested they'd won the 2014 vote, and thankfully they didn't.   

Parliamentary process is sacrosanct and the UK must Brexit and idiots suggesting we didn't know what we voted for must be muted.  

If Parliamentary process is sacrosanct then you'll be content when Parliament repeals the Withdrawal Act and votes for a second referendum?

[lichtgilphead]

3 minutes ago, Billy Rubin said:

Any noise about the failing with FPTP or the travel between a white/green paper to royal assent is completely irrelevant to the fact that brexit was a democratic decision by the UK electorate.   
It would have been equally poor if Yes Scotland suggested they'd won the 2014 vote, and thankfully they didn't.   

Parliamentary process is sacrosanct and the UK must Brexit and idiots suggesting we didn't know what we voted for must be muted.  

I hope you're trolling.

You can't really be that uninformed?

[welshbairn]

28 minutes ago, Billy Rubin said:

1)  A referendum is democratic.   The colours represented in parliament is irrelevant.   

2) correct. 

 

What about if Parliament decided that people with cycle clips on their ankles would be banned from the polling stations?

[Billy Rubin]

1 minute ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

If Parliamentary process is sacrosanct then you'll be content when Parliament repeals the Withdrawal Act and votes for a second referendum?

I believe the UK has to exit, afterwards we can - if we wish - vote for parties like the Lib Dems - that wish to rejoin the EU.    It's a democratic fail if the result isn't respected.  
 

We're sheltered in Scotland towards the brexit hate from sections of England.   Non-allowance of brexit to happen may well lead to martial control.  

[Tibbermoresaint]

2 minutes ago, Billy Rubin said:

I believe the UK has to exit, afterwards we can - if we wish - vote for parties like the Lib Dems - that wish to rejoin the EU.    It's a democratic fail if the result isn't respected.  
 

We're sheltered in Scotland towards the brexit hate from sections of England.   Non-allowance of brexit to happen may well lead to martial control.  

So not at all concerned about Parliamentary process then.