Baxter Parp Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: *Gestures at the literally hundreds of anti trans tweets* Can't see 'em. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 23 minutes ago, pandarilla said: Aye cos Alex salmond has been useless for Scottish independence Even if he's found guilty, he'll have arguably done more than anyone to promote Scottish independence over the years. I like the wings guy. I don't agree with everything he's said, but I hate the modern trend of writing someone off entirely due to one or two statements. Can't say I like him but he's certainly far better at what he does than anyone else, even more folk would believe the bullshit fed to us by our imperial masters if he wasn't around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Can't see 'em.You can't see past the end of your nose sometimes.Campbell has undoubtedly been positive for the Independence cause but there are times his other views are damaging.The way some champion him no matter what is disturbing.You just wonder what some people are prepared to ignore because someone is seen to be on the "independence side". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I have to admit that I'm not up on the transphobia accusations, but I also know that I've read about Germaine Greer and Mary Beard being described as transphobic - so I'm not convinced the debate is cut and dried. There is a clear split between more militant transgender campaigners and traditional feminists. That isn't what is going on with Campbell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: 14 minutes ago, pandarilla said: I have to admit that I'm not up on the transphobia accusations, but I also know that I've read about Germaine Greer and Mary Beard being described as transphobic - so I'm not convinced the debate is cut and dried. There is a clear split between more militant transgender campaigners and traditional feminists. That isn't what is going on with Campbell. In what way do his views vary from the "traditional feminists" who are pretty much asking the same questions he is? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Btw, if anyone is wondering, this line that Baxter Parp is taking is 100% predictable. Exactly the sort of person who will defend the indefensible because of the side he's on. Once tried to create an anti-SNP conspiracy on a photo that had Mark Carney in it which went wonderfully badly for him. Tool. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 5 hours ago, Colkitto said: Jason Michael has come onto the scene but he's starting to come across as a pure roaster Any idea what this is about? https://twitter.com/Jeggit/status/1110612537081516032 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 There's no denying that he was massively important both pre and post September 2014. He opened a lot of people's eyes and probably influenced thousands to join the movement and vote yes. Most of his stuff around that time was fucking excellent. He's now just preaching to the converted. Ask yourself this, are those who are still on the fence going to be persuaded to vote yes after reading some of the shite he posts and knowing that the absolute zoomers on the fringes of the movement flock to him like a moth to a flame ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: You can't see past the end of your nose sometimes. No, he blocked me because I insisted Count Dankula was a nazi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Can't see 'em. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Just now, NotThePars said: Stuff Is he wrong? Are men who declare they're woman biologically women? What are the implications for society if it's so? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, pandarilla said: I have to admit that I'm not up on the transphobia accusations, but I also know that I've read about Germaine Greer and Mary Beard being described as transphobic - so I'm not convinced the debate is cut and dried. He's stirring up an online and manufactured controversy. Have you ever heard of man pretending to be a woman to get into a women's toilets or shower room? It's back to Clause 28 and having to stop all these teachers turning their pupils gay. Anyway he should keep it separate from the indy thing, he's using the Scotland brand to sell his own shitty prejudices. Wings over Labeling maybe, he called himself Wings over Sealand I think when he was blaming scousers for Hillsborough. Edited March 26, 2019 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Is he wrong? Are men who declare they're woman biologically women? What are the implications for society if it's so? I think any women, who identify as women, are women. Yes. Do you think women who identify as such but are assigned male at birth to be delusional men? Edited to take out even the sliver of indulgence for this trans panic nonsense. welshbairn is right, it’s Section 28 nonsense all over again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Just now, welshbairn said: He's stirring up an online and manufactured controversy. Have you ever heard of man pretending to be a woman to get into a women's toilets or shower room? It's back to Clause 28 and having to stop all these teachers turning their pupils gay. https://www.scotsman.com/news/female-spaces-need-better-protection-after-trans-woman-sex-assault-on-girl-say-campaigners-1-4868945 https://www.kxii.com/content/news/Transgender-woman-allegedly-sexually-assaults-teen-in-walmart-505820451.html https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/11/transgender-prisoner-who-sexually-assaulted-inmates-jailed-for-life There's no doubt that transgender people are vulnerable members of society but to assume that they're all saints is just barmy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 https://www.scotsman.com/news/female-spaces-need-better-protection-after-trans-woman-sex-assault-on-girl-say-campaigners-1-4868945https://www.kxii.com/content/news/Transgender-woman-allegedly-sexually-assaults-teen-in-walmart-505820451.htmlhttps://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/11/transgender-prisoner-who-sexually-assaulted-inmates-jailed-for-life There's no doubt that transgender people are vulnerable members of society but to assume that they're all saints is just barmy.Nobody’s claiming they’re saints. You’re suggesting they are men who are invading women’s spaces. Cis women assault women as well. What’s your solution? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, NotThePars said: I think the vast, vast (vast*) majority of women, who identify as women, are women. Yes. Biologically women? A transmogrification occurs at the point of declaration? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flybhoy Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) Kezia Dugdale is a pretty nondescript, career politician and not a very good one at that, however Stuart Campbell aka 'Wings' is a fucking cretin, a nasty troll and a shit stirring arsehole, the SNP and the independence movement in general would do well to distance themselves from him and his rather confrontational and aggressive form of politics, some of his musings and tweets have been nothing short of disgraceful, Google his quite disgusting comments on Hillsborough for a prime example. No great fan of Dugdale but hope she trounces him in court, utter fucking c**t of a guy. Edited March 26, 2019 by Flybhoy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Nobody’s claiming they’re saints. You’re suggesting they are men who are invading women’s spaces. Cis women assault women as well. What’s your solution? I'm not suggesting that, I'm providing instances of that. Also Cis women do not sexually assault women (unless they're really pissed, I suppose) Edited March 26, 2019 by Baxter Parp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Biologically women? A transmogrification occurs at the point of declaration? What makes a biological woman? Is this a sufficient method of deciding who should be considered a woman? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Flybhoy said: Kezia Dugdale is a pretty nondescript, career politician and not a very good one at that, however Stuart Campbell aka 'Wings' is a fucking cretin, a nasty troll and a shit stirring arsehole, the SNP and the independence movement in general would do well to distance themselves from him and his rather confrontational and aggressive form of politics, some of musings and tweets have been nothing short of disgraceful, Google his quite disgusting comments on Hillsborough for a prime example. No great fan of Dugdale but hope she trounces him in court, utter fucking c**t of a guy. In all honesty, I hold Dugdale in a similar lowly regard, I'll take a draw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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