Contra Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, dogmc said: Snodgrass provided excellent delivery at set pieces tonight.....He also has scored goals n provided assists. Forrest has given zero in a Scotland shirt. He isn't a scapegoat he's just useless. Before game the apologists were claiming he would protect Wallace better than Burke could.....first 2 goals from that channel..... Forrest was far the better player than Snodgrass tonight though. Its not even debatable. "Apologists" Says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 That was the outcome i feared would happen ..Scoreline looks pretty convincing but the only positive is we never camped in our own half and let them have all the possession ( with the same or worse outcome)..Effort can only get you so far but until we have Scottish players getting a start for teams at the highest club level theres always going to be a gulf..New manager ?? Aye ok ,,neeeeext... Aye northern Ireland n Iceland qualified for last euros by packing out the Barcelona bayern n Madrid teams.....ironically tho we have a player scoring n providing assists for the team that's joint top of bundesliga n Strachan hasn't let him play in last 2 games......whilst a hibs player has had game time. Still let's pretend shit mgrs aren't a prob when bang average squads like ni Iceland etc can....oh wait no I forgot ni have better players then us... shame we can't steal magennis! ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 1 minute ago, dogmc said: Snodgrass provided excellent delivery at set pieces tonight.....He also has scored goals n provided assists. Forrest has given zero in a Scotland shirt. He isn't a scapegoat he's just useless. Before game the apologists were claiming he would protect Wallace better than Burke could.....first 2 goals from that channel..... Snodgrass has been consistently good for years now, this is Forrest's first season where he has been really good for Celtic after about what 7 years? He also missed a sitter against Lithuania. The Old Firm players just aren't good enough to be regular starters. Griffiths would get away with not passing the ball through for someone else at Celtic because he'd get another chance soon, to pass up that opportunity to slip in Snodgrass was criminal. What about Hanley though, do we persist with this guy? Does anyone know if Ashley Williams was this crap for Wales for the first 25-30 caps and they stuck by him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Nonsense. We were well in the game but didn't take our chances. Shots for the keeper to save is one stat, the Forrest chance, the snodgrass chance, the hanley chance, and Griffiths failing to slide the pass through were all big moments in that match. We lacked the quality to take them, and were severely punished. Hart had no shots to save and could have lit up a cigar throughout the game. Because Scotland were shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Forrest was far the better player than Snodgrass tonight though. Its not even debatable. "Apologists" Says it all. Forrest did nothing at all tonight...zero. missed an open goal n watched first two goals being scored instead of trying to defend. Snodgrass at least delivered the ball into dangerous areas. If that's forrest playing well then this should be his last game. He's a liability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 In Slovakia we downed tools at two down, completely unacceptable.I will give you that Slovakia were there for the taking and we looked good early on in the match, just as we did tonight. We lost both 3-0. I would take a dour 1-0 win and forgo the early promise with no end product.If we are aiming for play off or qualify. We must beat Lithuania at home. Slovakia showed us how it should be done tonight.I'm fed up with bad luck, and oh what about those chances and glorious failure.I agree with your view on the defence. Slovakia are simply a much better team than Scotland: the same chumps who thought that Scotland were close to taking England tonight thought the same about Slovakia. The result was exactly the same and decisive in both matches. Slovenia are also a much better side than Scotland so it's game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 For the "we don't have the players though" losers sticking up for Strachan, how about next time the job comes up, we save some money and I'll take over? It doesn't matter anyway eh, there aren't any Dalglish or Law's kicking about, so the manager is irrelevant. Oh right, the players we have - shite as they are - are underachieving and having the campaign over after a few games / flying down the seeding is actually pretty damaging. Better go for someone semi-competent then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Snodgrass has been consistently good for years now, this is Forrest's first season where he has been really good for Celtic after about what 7 years? He also missed a sitter against Lithuania. The Old Firm players just aren't good enough to be regular starters. Griffiths would get away with not passing the ball through for someone else at Celtic because he'd get another chance soon, to pass up that opportunity to slip in Snodgrass was criminal. What about Hanley though, do we persist with this guy? Does anyone know if Ashley Williams was this crap for Wales for the first 25-30 caps and they stuck by him? Agreed. I'd still pick Griffiths first up over fletcher or Martin but it was a horrible decision not to pass . Forrest hasn't provided anything at all in any game at all for us....nothing. him brown fletcher n Wallace should be binned completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 For the "we don't have the players though" losers sticking up for Strachan, how about next time the job comes up, we save some money and I'll take over? It doesn't matter anyway eh, there aren't any Dalglish or Law's kicking about, so the manager is irrelevant. Oh right, the players we have - shite as they are - are underachieving and having the campaign over after a few games / flying down the seeding is actually pretty damaging. Better go for someone semi-competent then. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, dogmc said: Forrest did nothing at all tonight...zero. missed an open goal n watched first two goals being scored instead of trying to defend. Snodgrass at least delivered the ball into dangerous areas. If that's forrest playing well then this should be his last game. He's a liability Snodgrass is obviously a better player (altough still overated by Scotland fans, mind you who can blame them when there is no-one else), but Forrest was clearly better tonight. No idea what the 'open goal' you are talking about is, but Snodgrass had the best chance of the match and fluffed his lines. Neither of the first 2 goals were anything to do with Forrest, or at least there were about 4-5 players more responsible for those goals than him. He looked the most threatening of any player (not that that would have been difficult), had some nice link up play and put in a power of work. If Burke had put in that same display the reaction to it would have been completely different. Burke's dispays against Malta and Lithuania were far worse than any display that Forrest has put in in recent times, yet people want him to start. Scotland fans are weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Great day up until the game, mystified about the reports of scuffles and what not at trafalgar square though, was a great atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gastropod Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 12 minutes ago, dogmc said: Aye northern Ireland n Iceland qualified for last euros by packing out the Barcelona bayern n Madrid teams.....ironically tho we have a player scoring n providing assists for the team that's joint top of bundesliga n Strachan hasn't let him play in last 2 games......whilst a hibs player has had game time. Still let's pretend shit mgrs aren't a prob when bang average squads like ni Iceland etc can....oh wait no I forgot ni have better players then us... shame we can't steal magennis! ! Ok , who would you have as a manager if you were the SFA ?? Ive seen Scotland as far back as World cup74 , and seen the decline in our best players ..From Hanson to Hanley ,,from Jordon to Fletcher , Bremner to Bannon etc.. N.I and Iceland did well ..Fair play to them if they can keep it up..That was the best thing about the Euros , but basing their success on one tournament ( with extended amount of teams ) is not something to measure anything..Good luck to who ever takes this job next .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Snodgrass is obviously a better player (altough still overated by Scotland fans, mind you who can blame them when there is no-one else), but Forrest was clearly better tonight. No idea what the 'open goal' you are talking about is, but Snodgrass had the best chance of the match and fluffed his lines. Neither of the first 2 goals were anything to do with Forrest, or at least there were about 4-5 players more responsible for those goals than him. He looked the most threatening of any player (not that that would have been difficult), had some nice link up play and put in a power of work. If Burke had put in that same display the reaction to it would have been completely different. Burke's dispays against Malta and Lithuania were far worse than any display that Forrest has put in in recent times, yet people want him to start. Scotland fans are weird. Rubbish forrest stood watching while the cross came in for 1st goal n provided no cover at all for an equally woeful Wallace. Noone was more responsible than forrest for first goal. As for attacking threat I missed him doing anything at all offensively. To say Burkes performances against Malta n Lithuania were worse than forrest is lunacy. When a side in top 2 of serie a bundesliga or epl comes in for Forrest then you might have a point ffs. Forrest has done zero for Scotland every single time consistently..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC. Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 England didn't even get out of 2nd gear and brushed us aside with relative ease. Joe Hart didn't have one save to make. Deserved to lose and we are battling it out with Lithuania for the best shite team of the group. The worst England team in my living memory. I imagine Strachan will not be Scotland manager for Euro 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contra Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, dogmc said: Rubbish forrest stood watching while the cross came in for 1st goal n provided no cover at all for an equally woeful Wallace. Noone was more responsible than forrest for first goal. As for attacking threat I missed him doing anything at all offensively. To say Burkes performances against Malta n Lithuania were worse than forrest is lunacy. When a side in top 2 of serie a bundesliga or epl comes in for Forrest then you might have a point ffs. Forrest has done zero for Scotland every single time consistently..... Idiocy at its finest. Justifying a point about a players performance based on a price tag. You are a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominique Malonga Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 For what its worth, I think if we play like that for the rest of the campaign we'll finish second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Scotland's worst score v England since 24 May 1975. Edit to add clip of that game: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 5 hours ago, Jordo1872 said: Felt exactly the same. Sanding at Wembley watching fans clapping players who have just been far too easily swept aside by a bang average England side. Fans dancing in the concourse having just watched us lose 3-0 to our greatest rivals. No time for that at all. An embarrassment. They do a lot of work for charity though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastermind Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 England played poorly, yet still scored 3 goals, missed an open goal from 2 yards out, and took the piss for the last 20 minutes. Unfortunately the idea that we were ever realistically a threat in this game is utter nonsense. Hart, quite literally, didn't make a save all game. Even if we'd equalised, we'd have retreated and crumbled within minutes under the slightest pressure. We have a lower English Championship level defence, playing against a top 4 Premier League attack. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 My daughter asked me if Anya's wife is called Liz. That was the highlight of the game for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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