Crùbag Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 47 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: That's just grandstanding by the senator and serves to detract from any future legitimate case for impeachment. Trump is vile and abhorrent, but there is no case for impeachment at this point. Censure, perhaps. And despite the hysteria - much of it understandable - Trump hasn't actually been able to do much damage, because moderate Republicans have sided with minority Democrats. The system has checks and balances. Pressure is building. As to damage - representatives voting in the house will not stop his rhetoric or his ludicrous tweets. Neo-Nazis and the once flagging KKK are having a field day due to Trump. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-carl-bernstein-watergate-journalist-republicans-unfit-office-us-president-media-paul-a7897631.html?cmpid=facebook-post 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 He gave away the location of an Israeli source/spy working inside IS and giving detailed intelligence about plans to fit laptops with explosives to be carried on planes, to the Russian Ambassador, whose country is allied with the Syrians, who are still officially at war with Israel and who are regularly bombed by the Israeli Air Force. This is a man who upon arriving in Israel from Saudi Arabia said he had just flown in from the Middle East. Impeach him already! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 5 hours ago, Zetterlund said: Aye just a mini one on a US scale, San Francisco to Vegas with a few detours in between. Looking forward to the political banter with the locals in the truck stops. If you are want to visit Alcatraz - you need to book now! I was in San Francisco recently and the next available ticket was a month later. Also - don't ask a taxi driver to take you along the route used in the car chase from Bullitt. They cheated! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, Fullerene said: Also - don't ask a taxi driver to take you along the route used in the car chase from Bullitt. They cheated! True. I haven't seen the film in a long time but apparently the same VW Beetle makes multiple appearances during the chase. Not Herbie though. That was a different film. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 36 minutes ago, Shotgun said: True. I haven't seen the film in a long time but apparently the same VW Beetle makes multiple appearances during the chase. Not Herbie though. That was a different film. Not so different actually. Bill Hickman was the driver in Love Bug even if you don't see him and the guy driving the car that Steve McQueen is chasing.in Bullitt. He was also involved in French Connection and the Seven Ups. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 100% of organized political violence was by the left. Have you seen the videos? The handful of incidents by Trump supporters involved people making fools of themselves and acting purposely provocatively at a private event. If I went to a Hibs v Hearts game in a Rangers jersey, sat in the supporters section, and started waving a British flag and singing God Save the Queen, I might get punched. That's vastly different than a rival hooligan firm showing up outside a Rangers bar and attacking me as I walk out. So getting into a car and ramming it in to your opponents is not organised violence . . . You are either a deluded nut-job or trolling like f**k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 You are either a deluded nut-job or trolling like f**k. My guess is he's both of those. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: So getting into a car and ramming it in to your opponents is not organised violence . . . You are either a deluded nut-job or trolling like f**k. ^^^Snowflake. Marching around a University Campus at night by torchlight and chanting "Jews will not replace us." is clearly light hearted banter, and if someone got goaded by lefties into driving a car at full speed into them, it's got nothing to do with the Nationalist/Nativist/Nazi movement, it's the goading. Edited August 19, 2017 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 For the people mocking my argument regarding guns and cars. UK auto fatality rate is 2.9/100,000. USA is 10.6/100,000. It's not so easy on guns, because I'm assuming any non-criminal British person with enough money for intercontinental travel isn't going to be very likely to be murdered in America. Probably not significantly higher than the likelihood of being murdered in the UK. But not British person ever says I couldn't ever live in the USA, I might die in a car crash. 5 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: So getting into a car and ramming it in to your opponents is not organised violence . . . You are either a deluded nut-job or trolling like f**k. Please work harder on your reading comprehension. My quote was clearly in answer to talk about violence at Trump rallies. Now, for the guy at the Nazi rally I've already said that I'm fairly certain that guy would not have rammed his car into the crowd of people if the police and local government had done their job and stopped clashes from happening. I could be wrong and it may have been preplanned that he would have run over peaceful lefty protesters politely making their views known. I kind of doubt that though. Assuming the reality is as it looks and he purposely murdered someone, he gets number one blame. The Virginia governor and Charlottesville mayor are numbers two and three. Federal law enforcement should subpoena their communications to see if they conspired to circumvent the federal court order to police the protest and protect everyone involved. If they did they should be criminally charged. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 13 hours ago, Carl Cort's Hamstring said: I've got lots of American relatives, and it's always a bit weird visiting. The warmest, friendliest people I've ever met were the people I met when I was staying in Georgia. I'd go to people's houses, they'd make me feel like one of the family, and then occasionally discussions would get political, and they'd come out with views that most Europeans would find completely insane. Quick question. British people who say they dislike Americans, is it all based on political/cultural bigotry and snobbery or are their other reasons given as well? I get that this is a self selecting sample of British people who come up to tell an American why America is so great, but I hear over and over again that Americans are nice and happy while British people are bitter and angry. Now, that isn't my experience with British people. They all seem nice enough and, while there does seem to be a tendency towards "woe is me" humor, I wouldn't use the word bitter. But then again I've only met a subset of British people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The Constitution says a President can be impeached and removed from office for Treason, Bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. The issue is that there's no enforcement mechanism to require that there actually be a crime if enough of Congress agrees they want the President gone. What's to stop them from just making something up, calling it a "high crime," and voting to remove? I wonder if the Supreme Court would want a say? We learned something similar earlier this year from Bernie Sanders. The Constitution says that there can't be any religious test for holding office in the United States. Sanders openly stated that he would not vote for an assistant budget officer because the nominee once said that he thinks only born again Christians go to heaven in the context of a debate regarding the firing of a professor from his Christian university alma mater for claiming that you can get to heaven through other religions. Now, that is pretty clearly a religious test, but there is no mechanism in the Constitution to force Senators to vote based on what it says. It kind of just trusts them to do what it says on stuff like that. There's no court review which can force a Senator to change his vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 49 minutes ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: For the people mocking my argument regarding guns and cars. UK auto fatality rate is 2.9/100,000. USA is 10.6/100,000. It's not so easy on guns, because I'm assuming any non-criminal British person with enough money for intercontinental travel isn't going to be very likely to be murdered in America. Probably not significantly higher than the likelihood of being murdered in the UK. But not British person ever says I couldn't ever live in the USA, I might die in a car crash. My dislike of the gun culture in America is not that I expect to be murdered. The main purpose of a gun used in anger is to kill. You could argue it could be used to wound or to fire a warning shot or simply to intimidate a threat. However, buying a gun does entail the possibility that if you were to use it - then somebody dies. While I am happy to visit the USA, I would not want to live there. It is not just the USA - I don't want to live in any country where the perceived threat of strangers is so high that lethal weapons are made easily available. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Swampy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, jupe1407 said: Swampy The wife he met on dungeons and dragons has definitely ran away with an immigrant 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 21 hours ago, The OP said: Since l'm not Jewish, Black, Asian, Slavic, Roma, Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist, a Jehovah's Witness, a mason, a homosexual, a feminist, an anarchist, disabled, a communist, a socialist, a trade unionist, a social democrat or a priest I'm cool with it. They came for the Celtic fans but I wasn't a Celtic fan so I did nothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 If I went to a Hibs v Hearts game in a Rangers jersey, sat in the supporters section, and started waving a British flag and singing God Save the Queen, I might get punched. I think you should risk it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Worth remembering that the protesters who were attacked were locals of different races. Mostly church people and all peaceful. Antifa, who will fight back, defended them from the attacks of the KKK and Nazis. TBH, anyone in this day and age who takes to the streets waving swastikas and seig-heiling needs a slap or two. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: I think you should risk it. I think we should all chip in to cover his ticket price with one caveat, it has to be a Celtic v Hibs game. Or maybe St Pauli... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dorlomin Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 45 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: They came for the Celtic fans but I wasn't a Celtic fan so I did nothing. Did they need some help rounding them up? Asking for a friend 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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