houston_bud Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, welshbairn said: I think he's more the Jefferson Davis type. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/nov/02/steve-bannon-book-trump-speech Definitely, but he's compared himself to Lincoln before. I'm sure that, more than once, he's - laughably - said about him doing more for African Americans than any President since Lincoln. Edited December 29, 2023 by houston_bud 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 11 hours ago, Trogdor said: I think he got an electoral college vote from Maine (1 out of 4) in 2016 & 2020. You're right in that it doesn't impact the electoral arithmetic significantly. Its starting to become a bit of a crescendo. Are there any battleground states where the 14th ammendment might be in play? I'm not sure on the later point. TxRover might know. Trump would probably take the comparison to Lincoln (I can see him using that). He also hopes to return the USA to the 1800s! Punt. Michigan went the way it did because it lacked a law similar to that Colorado relied upon. Not sure the story in Maine, sitting in London City Airport hoping to make tomorrow’s Raith match. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmarv Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 more rage . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senorsoupe Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I like how the MAGArseholes are complaining about Green Day having "gone woke" as if American Idiot was a conservative and patriotic song lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 “Write in Trump” trending on Twitter as Colorado supporters push a plan to support Trump. Problem, if any of them had taken a minute to read the opinion, the Colorado Secretary of State is ordered to remove Trump from the ballot and enjoined from counting any write in votes for Trump. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmarv Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 What a way to run a democracy https://www.vox.com/23899688/2024-election-republican-primary-death-threats-trump 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 29/12/2023 at 06:01, houston_bud said: Wonder when the last election was where one of the main candidates wasn't on the ballot in certain states? I know Lincoln wasn't on the ballot in a lot of southern states prior to the civil war, anyone know if it has happened since the civil war era? Post-WWI: 1964 The last slate of unpledged electors to date was filed in Alabama in the 1964 election. The slate was supported by Democratic Alabama Governor George C. Wallace while the national Democratic nominees, Lyndon B. Johnson and Hubert H. Humphrey, did not appear on Alabama ballots.[13] The electors won 30.6 percent of the vote, but the state was ultimately won by Republican nominees Barry Goldwater and William E. Miller. 1964 United States presidential election in Alabama - Wikipedia 1948 In May of 1948, Alabama’s Democratic presidential elector primary chose electors who were pledged to not vote for incumbent President Truman,[9] and the state Supreme Court ruled that any statute requiring party presidential electors to vote for that party's national nominee was void.[10] Half of Alabama’s delegation then walked out at the party's national convention in Philadelphia because of Truman's endorsement of civil rights for African Americans.[11] This segregationist faction met on July 17, 1948, in Birmingham, nominating South Carolina governor Strom Thurmond as its nominee for president. Mississippi governor Fielding L. Wright was nominated for vice president. A "Loyalist" group would petition governor "Big Jim" Folsom to allow Truman electors on the ballot alongside the “Democratic” electors pledged to Thurmond, but Senator John Sparkman, fearing popular defeat at the hands of the Dixiecrats and a hostile state legislature, decided against placing Truman electors on the ballot,[12] although a Gallup poll in October showed that about a third of state voters would support Truman if they were able to do so.[a] In other Southern states where Truman was on the ballot, Thurmond was forced to run under the label of the States' Rights Democratic Party. Thurmond overwhelmingly won Alabama by a margin of 60.71 percent, or 130,513 votes, against his closest opponent, Republican New York governor Thomas E. Dewey.[14] 1948 United States presidential election in Alabama - Wikipedia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Trump has filed an appeal on Maine’s removal of his name from the ballot. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-challenge-maine-ruling-2024-primary-ballot-appeal-rcna131761 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmarv Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Same old shit from the Republicans. They have no intention of fixing the immigration system. Nehls just happens to be my member of Congress, what a fine chap: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 So Trump’s lawyers are now arguing that the Supreme Court should take, on an expedited basis, his appeal of the decision that he had waited too long to claim Absolute Presidential Immunity in the E. Jean Carroll case. Amusingly, the exactly opposite position they just took before the Supreme Court on Jack Smith’s request to rule on Presidential Immunity in the D.C. case before the D.C. Appeal Court ruled. As it stands, the results could be: 1) The Supreme Court agrees to hear Trump’s expedited appeal in the Carroll case, and then gets a request from Smith to consolidate the case with whichever appeal is filed after the next D.C. ruling (mid-Jan)…meaning Trump actually gave Smith what he wanted because of poor tactics. 2) The Supreme Court declines to hear Trump’s expedited appeal, and the Carroll case moves forward to trial as the Primaries start, with an expectation of Trump being found liable for between tens and hundreds of millions. The same expert that testified in the Giuliani case is testifying in the Carroll case. Meanwhile, Trump’s team have asked Chutkin to find Smith in Contempt of Court for not respecting the stay she issued, but there is wide disagreement on the matter. Smith’s team has been filing requests and motions that will not be addressed until the hold is lifted (and would be irrelevant if the Supreme Court held him immune), but the Trump teams says it’s an effort to spread political propaganda. Overall, probably will be squashed, as the procedures Smith’s team is following are widely recognised as appropriate. Most observers see this as the Trump team getting another press release about the “peaceful protests” on Jan 6th. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 New reports that China and Chinese State controlled companies paid Trump somewhere around $5.5 million during his Presidency as they stayed at his properties. The Commercial Bank of China paid over $7 million for a lease in Trump Tower between 2016 and early 2021…and then broke a five lease year after two years, in 2021 (when Trump left office). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 U.S. Supreme Court to hear Trump’s Colorado ballot ban appeal on 8 February. I’d expect the Maine issue to be combined with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Any American Civil War students out there care to comment? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-civil-war-negotiated-b2474401.html In a fairly strong field, this could go down as the worst Trumpet yet... "Speaking about the 1861-1865 conflict between the Union and the Confederacy, he told the crowd of supporters: “I’m so attracted to seeing it. There was something that could’ve been negotiated… Abraham Lincoln, if he negotiated it, we wouldn’t know who Lincoln was. He wouldn’t have been the Abraham Lincoln. But that would’ve been ok.” The comments provoked outrage online, with former Republican Rep Liz Cheney writing on X: “Which part of the Civil War ‘could have been negotiated’? The slavery part? The secession part? Whether Lincoln should have preserved the Union?”" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmarv Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 3 hours ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Any American Civil War students out there care to comment? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-civil-war-negotiated-b2474401.html In a fairly strong field, this could go down as the worst Trumpet yet... "Speaking about the 1861-1865 conflict between the Union and the Confederacy, he told the crowd of supporters: “I’m so attracted to seeing it. There was something that could’ve been negotiated… Abraham Lincoln, if he negotiated it, we wouldn’t know who Lincoln was. He wouldn’t have been the Abraham Lincoln. But that would’ve been ok.” The comments provoked outrage online, with former Republican Rep Liz Cheney writing on X: “Which part of the Civil War ‘could have been negotiated’? The slavery part? The secession part? Whether Lincoln should have preserved the Union?”" Donnie still going with the “i’m the master negotiator” pish. That narrative was never true, could have had some merit in 2016, but after four years in government, what exactly did he “negotiate” that benefited the USA? Picture the scene: “So, what do you want southern states?” “We want to have black people as slaves, yankee boy” “OK, deal!” Edited January 7 by bigmarv 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, bigmarv said: Donnie still going with the “i’m the master negotiator” pish. That narrative was never true, could have had some merit in 2016, but after four years in government, what exactly did he “negotiate” that benefited the USA? Picture the scene: “So, what do you want southern states?” “We want to have black people as slaves, yankee boy” “OK, deal!” He'd have agreed on the understanding that he had to be given one more slave than the next-highest slave owner, in perpetuity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 4 hours ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Any American Civil War students out there care to comment? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-civil-war-negotiated-b2474401.html In a fairly strong field, this could go down as the worst Trumpet yet... "Speaking about the 1861-1865 conflict between the Union and the Confederacy, he told the crowd of supporters: “I’m so attracted to seeing it. There was something that could’ve been negotiated… Abraham Lincoln, if he negotiated it, we wouldn’t know who Lincoln was. He wouldn’t have been the Abraham Lincoln. But that would’ve been ok.” The comments provoked outrage online, with former Republican Rep Liz Cheney writing on X: “Which part of the Civil War ‘could have been negotiated’? The slavery part? The secession part? Whether Lincoln should have preserved the Union?”" If you listen to his speech, the portion covering this is disturbing. It’s a rambling mess that is nearly incomprehensible, as he staggers around the central theme and repeats himself a half dozen times within a few minutes. While I was putting reports of cognitive decline up to partisan commentators and wishful thinking, it seems to be very true. His ability to talk ON a subject was always subject to his minuscule attention span, but it’s now become very apparent he’s trapped (mentally) on a hamster wheel of grievance and retaliation. Attempts by interviewers and questioners to get him to comment on topics for the election devolve into whining, name-calling and strange excursions like the Civil War negotiations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmarv Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 40 minutes ago, TxRover said: If you listen to his speech, the portion covering this is disturbing. It’s a rambling mess that is nearly incomprehensible, as he staggers around the central theme and repeats himself a half dozen times within a few minutes. While I was putting reports of cognitive decline up to partisan commentators and wishful thinking, it seems to be very true. His ability to talk ON a subject was always subject to his minuscule attention span, but it’s now become very apparent he’s trapped (mentally) on a hamster wheel of grievance and retaliation. Attempts by interviewers and questioners to get him to comment on topics for the election devolve into whining, name-calling and strange excursions like the Civil War negotiations. Did you catch the bit about magnets? . The only thing he knows about magnets is completely wrong? Could not make this guy up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmarv Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 hours ago, BFTD said: He'd have agreed on the understanding that he had to be given one more slave than the next-highest slave owner, in perpetuity. Nobody knows more about owning black people than me. Some people say I’m the best owner of black people in the country. And a dozen more . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 If only there was a well-known meme on the subject of magnets that might be appropriate at this time. Nope, can't think of one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 21 minutes ago, bigmarv said: Did you catch the bit about magnets? . The only thing he knows about magnets is completely wrong? Could not make this guy up. f**k it, I hope he wins just for more nuggets of wisdom like this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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