Ross. Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Just now, oaksoft said: You reckon that is the ONLY problem with your plan? Sentimentalism is over rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 1 minute ago, oaksoft said: As is youth. Fortunately I have neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Ad Lib said: We'd probably be better on balance if there wasn't either the French Revolution or American Revolution. Bentham literally founded Universities; he was the polar opposite of an amateur. Being as I am a liberal, I clearly regard the emergence of socialism as a retrograde step. I have no great enthusiasm for its advocates and their, yes, amateurish, solutions to complex problems. No, liberalism is about the emancipation of the individual from the obstacles to their autonomy, champ. And if an individual physically cannot be emancipated, they must be protected from the coercion of others. Like authoritarian amateurs who don't know what they're doing. Like Donald Drumph. "We'd probably be better on balance if there wasn't either the French Revolution or American Revolution." "Bentham literally founded Universities; he was the polar opposite of an amateur." Bullshit. He was one of over a thousand people to buy a share in the University of London (what became University College London) and had zero role in its founding. So much for founding a university, let alone universities. [Source, University College London] "Being as I am a liberal, I clearly regard the emergence of socialism as a retrograde step. I have no great enthusiasm for its advocates and their, yes, amateurish, solutions to complex problems." Regardless of my own attitudes to socialism, I'd say that attempting checks, controls and balances as per socialism seem to be a lot more involved & therefore far less amateurish than the liberal free for all which history has shown in practice to be equating to a Darwinesque survival of the fittest. "... the emancipation of the individual from the obstacles to their autonomy ... And if an individual physically cannot be emancipated, they must be protected from the coercion of others." Which in the context of all you've said before sounds alarmingly like the sort of crap John Tyndall used to come out with on a regular basis from "The Authoritarian State" onwards before he stopped stealing valuable oxygen - taking away freedoms in the name of liberty on the basis that it's "for their own good". If taxpaying adults, after having access to all the facts via a free media, still want to democratically vote for the village idiot, shame on those running the system up until that point (the media, the education system, etc) for allowing the state of affairs to happen from their own complacency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Me neither. I do have hair though and apparently a much happier life than poor old Ad Lib who seems to be stuck in the the perma hell of depressed Manchild. I hope he finds himself but I wont lose much sleep over it. We'll always have that look he gave Jim Murphy when the vote was read out. And so will he. For that reason alone I won't be hard on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 10 minutes ago, WaffenThinMint said: If taxpaying adults, after having access to all the facts via a free media, still want to democratically vote for the village idiot, shame on those running the system up until that point (the media, the education system, etc) for allowing the state of affairs to happen from their own complacency. I agree with all your post WTM but especially this part. If you have uneducated people voting for the "wrong" people, you don't take away their vote but you look for ways to educate them and give them the information they need. Voting shouldn't be the privilege of a few. I do think though that voting is a responsibility and people who do have good access to information should be prepared to put in a little time to find out about the options and what they are voting for. I have heard a lot of people over the course of the last few votes, talking about how people don't give them information or that nobody has told them about X, Y, Z policy. We have gotten lazy and take voting for granted and don't consider the consequences of what we are voting for. There are also many ways to demonstrate against the system but where are they? Have we seen protests, marches, strikes etc? There are better ways to protest than by self-harming at the ballot box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, oaksoft said: When I saw that childish look he gave Murphy, I cringed for him. Some on here thought it was "brilliant" but I thought it was evidence of classic Manchild behaviour. Adults tend not to engage in that sort of nonsense. Had it been anyone other than Murphy on the receiving end, I may have agreed. The fact it was Murphy and I wasn't there to do the same means I was delighted that someone managed it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 When I saw that childish look he gave Murphy, I cringed for him. Some on here thought it was "brilliant" but I thought it was evidence of classic Manchild behaviour. Adults tend not to engage in that sort of nonsense. What's wrong with being childish? I doubt many of us could resist in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, oaksoft said: When I saw that childish look he gave Murphy, I cringed for him. Some on here thought it was "brilliant" but I thought it was evidence of classic Manchild behaviour. Adults tend not to engage in that sort of nonsense. At least you're not bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 When I saw that childish look he gave Murphy, I cringed for him. Some on here thought it was "brilliant" but I thought it was evidence of classic Manchild behaviour. Adults tend not to engage in that sort of nonsense. Fucks sake. I bet you're a right laugh on a night out. AdLib was in a position none of us ever will be in, and he played it perfectly IMO. He's still a big VL though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 20 minutes ago, Bobby Skidmarks said: Fucks sake. I bet you're a right laugh on a night out. AdLib was in a position none of us ever will be in, and he played it perfectly IMO. He's still a big VL though. It's not an easy face to make either, could have gone terribly wrong.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 32 minutes ago, Bobby Skidmarks said: Fucks sake. I bet you're a right laugh on a night out. AdLib was in a position none of us ever will be in, and he played it perfectly IMO. He's still a big VL though. I'll confess to a particularly prolonged dry spell of some 18 months or so, but I'm not a VL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 ^^^Prolonged dry period at the age of 25/26. Weirdos shouldn't be allowed to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poo Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 I always find it funny when people go off on one on here with multi paragraph posts and links to their "sources" which nobody will ever read or click on. WaffenThinMinter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Libby in full fishing mode I see.[emoji28] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I'd restrict mandatory euthanasia to the religious, if they genuinely believe in the afterlife then I can't see there being any great resistance. I'd restrict it to auld United fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 4 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: I'd restrict it to auld United fans. If you're going to bring football into then I'll accept your suggestion with the caveat that it doesn't happen until Dundee win the Scottish Cup again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I'll confess to a particularly prolonged dry spell of some 18 months or so, but I'm not a VL. It should never be dry at your age.There's plenty time for that when you meet someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chlamydia Kid Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 The left bottled it globally as left parties were dragged so far to the right by cretins like jmo and berwickmad who scream about electability, this has shown that sanders could have won and so could corbyn. They'll never back him though as they're cretins who don't even have left views and are horrified when confronted with them. That's why you get weapons like dugdale calling herself a socialist, and the labour party abstaining en masse on things like welfare reform, trident ad Yemen last week. The left needs to grow some balls and unashamedly promote left wing values and policies , not pander to swing voters requiring them to dilute their very essence on the altar of electability, which, as it turns out isn't even electable anyway and the values they are running away from in horror are electable and would engender real positive change. I'm screen shorting this. PI in not talking utter shite shocker! Suppose even a broken clock shows the right time twice a day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcat1990 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I'll confess to a particularly prolonged dry spell of some 18 months or so, but I'm not a VL. This post me reminds me of some great toilet graffiti I once saw which I think you should pay heed to. "It's better to suck and f**k till your knees wobble then spend your life worrying about reformist politics" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 hours ago, The Chlamydia Kid said: I'm screen shorting this. PI in not talking utter shite shocker! Suppose even a broken clock shows the right time twice a day.... Not convinced PI really understands what is happening. The left needs to offer hope and relevance to the millions upon millions of British voters who feel let down, sidelined and ignored by the ruling liberal elite who have their own agendas and priorities that British voters have realised are detrimental to their own wellbeing and cultural/economic progression. The Labour party, Lib Dems.....and soon even the SNP will all be memories of a different time and a distant past until they start showing they are interested in the people and not in their pet virtuous political campaigns that most people could not give a f*ck about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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