Baxter Parp Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 minute ago, SuperT said: I'm on about the different polls like how many want another referendum etc. By twice linking to a poll that had already been linked in a previous post. Ok. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 26 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: I'll give you a chance to get onside with the rest of the daft wee tartan gonks who are ridiculing you elsewhere on the politics sub-forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperT Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: By twice linking to a poll that had already been linked in a previous post. Ok. To be honest I am just happy that the polls are showing the support for independence and the appetite to have another referendum are dropping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Just now, SuperT said: To be honest I am just happy that the polls are showing the support for independence and the appetite to have another referendum are dropping. Whatever gives you peace. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperT Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Just now, Baxter Parp said: Whatever gives you peace. It certainly helps, thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 12 hours ago, TAFKAM said: As I continually bang on - we will only win if we take the most pessimistic view of why a poll reflects something bad for our position. I get so frustrated by the kneejerk compulsion to find some externality to explain away stuff like this. There's a fucking truckload of things the SNP is not doing very well at just now and I want them to take heed when polls tell them so and do better. If not, then murmur that the SNP are turning into ~2006 Labour is going to become a roar by next election. If you look at the periods of a Yes lead since 2016, you find it tends to be generated by a crisis of faith in the UK, rather than by any positive action by the Scottish Government. The immediate aftermath of Brexit, the comparative shambles of the response to Covid prior to the vaccine program.... it seems to me like it is more about people running away from the Union rather than running towards Scotland. The available swing vote as far as I can see is a strata of society that is basically comfortable enough with a status quo that they don't have to think about too hard, and who start to nervously eye the exit door when, as happens with increasing regularity, the UK shits the bed. You might win a referendum on the basis you catch the Tories at a bad time and the swing vote breaks your way. Far from certain though. Hell, maybe you run a campaign so well that you bring them with you anyway. The country is basically split down the middle and any referendum now would likely be a toss-up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) Relying on the polls as an adjudicator of when the campaign should begin is dumb anyway as any halfway competent indy campaign should see support rising for independence. Edited June 28, 2021 by NotThePars deleting additional anyways that made me sound like that Burnistoun character in the ice cream van 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Aye that's a very good description. I think it's a long game really. Every time there's this surge in support as you say, the SNP are trying to convert a proportion of them into supporters of the party. When they f**k up about donations, schools, hospitals, selecting megalomaniacs as MPs etc then it dents them and they lose these folk again. This is why eejits think the SNP is only interested in consolidating domestic power and not advancing independence.Consolidating domestic power and advancing independence are not mutually exclusive.I think it's an absolute necessity that the Scottish Government shows they are competent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonapersona Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 16 hours ago, Antlion said: Uncanny how Prince William looks just like his dad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 On 18/06/2021 at 07:35, ICTChris said: Thank you very much middle England NIMBYs Considering following this up with a bet on Labour to win Bately and Spen. Some briefings today that Labour think they might shade it. They are current 7/2 with the Tories 1/6. I don't even know who the Tory candidate is, most of the focus has been on the Labour candidate being harrassed and George Galloway being George Galloway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 hours ago, ICTChris said: Considering following this up with a bet on Labour to win Bately and Spen. Some briefings today that Labour think they might shade it. They are current 7/2 with the Tories 1/6. I don't even know who the Tory candidate is, most of the focus has been on the Labour candidate being harrassed and George Galloway being George Galloway. I've grabbed Labour at 3/1. The odds have narrowed slightly in Labour's favour - whilst I think they're up against it, I dont think their prospects are as bad as was being discussed in the media. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 William Hill offering 5/1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Seeing a few tweets saying that Labour are increasingly confident they’ve held it. Bet365 don’t seem to have it listed anymore and I can’t even view the bet I placed, £10 on Labour hold. Do they do this for electoral law reasons? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Neck and neck, possible recount seems to be the vibe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Thank you, Yorkshire Labour voters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 That's an excellent hold for Labour, especially given the number off votes Galloway took. I doubt many Tory votes went to him. Given the amount of votes that went to some weird local party that was basically a UKIP reincarnation, I thought they would lose this ehen coupling with Galloway running. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Good to see the Tories getting 6000 less votes than in 2019 despite no other candidate really taking votes from them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 hours ago, ICTChris said: Thank you, Yorkshire Labour voters. Seconded! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 John Curtis saying that Galloway took a load of bigot votes off the Tories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Seconded! You love to see it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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