Jacksgranda Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Gunn wrote his book after Salmond and Sturgeon had fallen out. Even then it's couched in terms of "I think' and "It may' - it's not actually facts but an opinion of what happened. Is there anything from before that point by an actual witness? Spot on 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 6 hours ago, git-intae-thum said: It does appear to have been the catalyst for the fallout and was widely reported. https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/politics/scottish-politics/1623379/exclusive-former-snp-adviser-on-why-peter-murrell-is-at-centre-of-sturgeon-and-salmond-rift/ That podcast is juicy stuff. Interestingly Campbell Gunn said Salmond told him he had no intention of trying to take Mark McDonald's seat, nor any desire to return to Holyrood at all, which kind of undermines some of the conspiracy theories surrounding the sexual harassment allegations. However he also said he didn't believe the rumours of him starting a new political party either. https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-fnmm7-ee01e1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 44 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: Spot on I think Sturgeon was asked about it at the inquiry into her government’s handling of the inquiry into Salmond. I can’t recall exactly but again there was no denial. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 hours ago, welshbairn said: There's a load of hindsight gazing now, no doubt some Alba type in Buckie will be saying he never trusted him from when he ran the SNP office up there. Disappointed in your geography tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, strichener said: Disappointed in your geography tbh. Oops, it was Banff apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: Oops, it was Banff apparently. He was actually based in Peterhead. I met him a few times back in the 90s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Thorongil said: I think Sturgeon was asked about it at the inquiry into her government’s handling of the inquiry into Salmond. I can’t recall exactly but again there was no denial. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, strichener said: He was actually based in Peterhead. I met him a few times back in the 90s. Aye, I'm not doing too well here, I blame whoever did his terrible Wiki page. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, welshbairn said: According to his terrible wiki page he was also in Banff for a spell. The "Banff Buchan" office was the Banff and Buchan constituency which Salmond represented. The office was located at Maiden Street in Peterhead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, George Cowley said: To the best of my recollection. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 It turns out Keith Brown and Mike Russell were the good guys to the baddies Sturgeon, Murrell and Oswald. With Brown proposing governance changes in 2021 via a 41 page report. With none of the changes being implemented. Blocked by? You've guessed it, Sturgeon, Murrell & Oswald. www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/kirsten-oswald-peter-murrell-blocked-29660551.amp It's long past time to empty the stables. Over to you, Humza. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 He would have to start by emptying himself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 This’ll be the same Humza that took the DFM post off, erm…, Keith Brown? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 hours ago, virginton said: He would have to start by emptying himself. Well he was the continuity candidate... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 6 hours ago, George Cowley said: This’ll be the same Humza that took the DFM post off, erm…, Keith Brown? John Swinney was DFM. Keith Brown is Deputy Leader of the party, as elected by the membership in 2018. He was Justice Secretary before Humza came in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I stand corrected! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Appreciating that nobody has been charged yet, but - A couple of years ago, most people (indeed many unionist commentators) grudgingly talked about Sturgeon as possibly the most competent and certainly the most trusted politician around. She was roundly lauded for her honesty during Covid etc etc. We are now in a position where - if all the revelations are true, her husband perpetrated a financial fraud, they both shut down any questions or inquiries on the subject - and it seems inconceivable that she was unaware of what was going on. What I struggle with is the notion that Sturgeon (who, regardless of your political persuasion, you cant deny came across as pretty smart) thought they could "get away" with this............ I have worked in places where people have been captured for fraud, and usually there is some underlying reason (gambling, relative with drug debts etc) and they are usually relieved to be caught. But this seems so utterly bizarre and incomprehensible - I mean, if she discovered he had his hands in the till just for greed, she could have called the polis and divorced the baldy auld man and come out of it (if not smelling of roses) with her reputation almost intact. Like I said, taking away any "Indy / Unionist" bias or "I fuckin telt ye so" shite - does anyone else find this case incredibly strange????? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, Leith Green said: What I struggle with is the notion that Sturgeon (who, regardless of your political persuasion, you cant deny came across as pretty smart) thought they could "get away" with this............ I have worked in places where people have been captured for fraud, and usually there is some underlying reason (gambling, relative with drug debts etc) and they are usually relieved to be caught. But this seems so utterly bizarre and incomprehensible - I mean, if she discovered he had his hands in the till just for greed, she could have called the polis and divorced the baldy auld man and come out of it (if not smelling of roses) with her reputation almost intact. Like I said, taking away any "Indy / Unionist" bias or "I fuckin telt ye so" shite - does anyone else find this case incredibly strange????? The thing that I can’t really understand is the great big grandstanding resignation press conference - I just couldn’t do it anymore, I knew at the funeral of an SNP stalwart that I’d have to quit, we need to be kinder in public life. She must have known this was all coming but did it anyway. Either she thought she could ride it out and nothing was going to come of the case or she just wanted her moment in the spotlight, the prose, the glowing comment pieces. Neither option is really flattering to her. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, Leith Green said: does anyone else find this case incredibly strange????? Yes, yes I do. There is no doubt about her debating and communication skills but something has gone seriously wrong and at the very least, that prompts me to start on a reappraisal of her leadership. Her defacto referendum announcement and the immediate kickback to it was puzzling and everything ever since is baffling. Are there any decent pieces of journalism that can help? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, ICTChris said: The thing that I can’t really understand is the great big grandstanding resignation press conference - I just couldn’t do it anymore, I knew at the funeral of an SNP stalwart that I’d have to quit, we need to be kinder in public life. She must have known this was all coming but did it anyway. Either she thought she could ride it out and nothing was going to come of the case or she just wanted her moment in the spotlight, the prose, the glowing comment pieces. Neither option is really flattering to her. Yep, and - again - it seems completely baffling that this would be done in the sure knowledge that her husband was "at it" and about to be huckled !! I cannae get my head round it, but the film is going to be fantastic...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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