Wilbur Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Points deductions / match forfeits are surely non-starters in terms of potential punishments for any breaches of Covid protocols. The evidence of guilt would have to be gold-plated. After having been dragged through the law courts by Hearts and Partick surely Doncaster wouldn't dare to impose a points penalty on Killie and/or St Mirren that would be guaranteed to drag his sorry arse back through those courts again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, ZingaliMan said: Have you read what I have wrote ? Obviously not as I have wrote we need to wait what the club statement is . If , IF there is any punishment from wrong doings. If we have broken the rules and proved guilty only then I expect feed back from SMISA. Yes, you said... Quote If you think fans paying £12 a month for years with two members from that organisation on the board should give no information to its members in a time of crisis then I dont agree. Then again we might be innocent but that info should still be out to fans. Also Quote It's a pandemic I'm sure if Killie and Saints take this to a court of law we will both be proved innocent In a court of law no one ever has to prove their innocence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZingaliMan Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Yes, you said... Also In a court of law no one ever has to prove their innocence. Your view is ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torfason Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Mr. Alli said: Those were one offs. Am I right in thinking your club have already been warned/investigated and this is now another, new charge? Not asking for any special status, just treat us the same way they would Rangers, Celtic and Aberdeen if they did what they are accusing us of. Now before any Hearts fan gets their knickers in a twist, had Obika not scored that goal they would have relegated us as soon as the final whistle was blown. The only reason it dragged on was they needed to f**k either Utd or Hearts. If it had been ICT, Dundee or any other clubs they wouldn’t have batted an eye lid about keeping Hearts up. The whole thing is a carve up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZingaliMan Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, Torfason said: Not asking for any special status, just treat us the same way they would Rangers, Celtic and Aberdeen if they did what they are accusing us of. Now before any Hearts fan gets their knickers in a twist, had Obika not scored that goal they would have relegated us as soon as the final whistle was blown. The only reason it dragged on was they needed to f**k either Utd or Hearts. If it had been ICT, Dundee or any other clubs they wouldn’t have batted an eye lid about keeping Hearts up. The whole thing is a carve up I'm no Hears lover these c***s are p***ks. They were given a raw deal had it been in the other foot we would have been shouting from the roof tops. At least I would. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) Looks like it will be 5 weeks between league matches for you guys so get your money on a 5-0 win, that’s how it works. Edited October 24, 2020 by ropy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBank Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 12 hours ago, Billy Jean King said: Rule breaches or not the reason we couldn't fulfill those fixtures was the small squad we are operating with. Had we say 25+ signed players we would probably have been able to field a team albeit a weakened one (although not now the squad has been isolated but I asume this is a step taken to tryto bring this outbreakto an end given the window created by no game next weekend). We will not be operating on this basis through choice it will be financial constraints that are dictating it. This scenario will never lead to a postponement for either of the cheeks, Aberdeen, Hibs etc so I really can't see how a points deduction can be applied as it was far from a level playing field from the outset. We have 23 players in the first team squad (excluding 2 out on loan). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 12 hours ago, Torfason said: Not asking for any special status, just treat us the same way they would Rangers, Celtic and Aberdeen if they did what they are accusing us of. Now before any Hearts fan gets their knickers in a twist, had Obika not scored that goal they would have relegated us as soon as the final whistle was blown. The only reason it dragged on was they needed to f**k either Utd or Hearts. If it had been ICT, Dundee or any other clubs they wouldn’t have batted an eye lid about keeping Hearts up. The whole thing is a carve up Slight pedant point: had Obika not scored, it would have been Hamilton in 12th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorky Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, ZingaliMan said: It's a pandemic I'm sure if Killie and Saints take this to a court of law we will both be proved innocent. At that point is the football authorities looking after their members ? I dont thinks so they are on a different planet. It's not a guess we are not out the first month of winter things are going to get bad for all clubs. If this goes tits up I'm finished watching Scottish football. Plenty other things to do on a Saturday. It is of course a pandemic and anyone can catch it at ant time. But football has these rules in place in order that it continues in as safe a way as possible, which of course is for the benefit of clubs and us as supporters. If any club behaves in an irresponsible way then there certainly should be repercussions. However Kilmarnock and St Mirren have not been shown to have done anything wrong at this point and as such we need to wait and see. Edited October 25, 2020 by Yorky 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 We have 23 players in the first team squad (excluding 2 out on loan).That includes 3 keepers at least though. Always going to be a struggle in the current predicament. Injuries, suspensions, positives and isolations are always going to take their toll. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torfason Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 6 hours ago, Coventry Saint said: Slight pedant point: had Obika not scored, it would have been Hamilton in 12th. Well you can feck right off 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, Torfason said: Well you can feck right off Quite right, he needs to be taken down a peg or two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Slight pedant point: had Obika not scored, it would have been Hamilton in 12th.If he hadn't scored then Hearts would still have been 12th. They were 4 points behind Accies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 8 hours ago, craigkillie said: 21 hours ago, Coventry Saint said: Slight pedant point: had Obika not scored, it would have been Hamilton in 12th. If he hadn't scored then Hearts would still have been 12th. They were 4 points behind Accies. FFS! Cheers. 14 hours ago, Ric said: Quite right, he needs to be taken down a peg or two. There ya go! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZingaliMan Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Lee Erwin saying the club are following C19 rules which is good to hear. Where is the Mail getting their info from . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Lee Erwin saying the club are following C19 rules which is good to hear. Where is the Mail getting their info from . He isn't really going to say anything else though, is he?Must be getting their info from the SFA/SPFL side of things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 On 24/10/2020 at 22:12, ZingaliMan said: Have you read what I have wrote ? Obviously not as I have wrote we need to wait what the club statement is . If , IF there is any punishment from wrong doings. If we have broken the rules and proved guilty only then I expect feed back from SMISA. Try paragraphs when writing long posts. Not being a grammar nazi, just saying that most humans when faced with a big block of text are more likely to miss things or even just not read it at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munoz Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 56 minutes ago, ZingaliMan said: Lee Erwin saying the club are following C19 rules which is good to hear. Where is the Mail getting their info from . Here's the article.... https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/striker-lee-erwin-insists-st-22906035 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Munoz said: Here's the article.... https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/striker-lee-erwin-insists-st-22906035 Good article. And just what we all wanted to hear. Hopefully there's some way of proving this; but it certainly doesn't seem like we've been 'ignoring all protocols' which some have tried to put forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 The Daily Mail being shitehawks? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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