The OP Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Just now, O'Kelly Isley III said: Rankings are the last place I'd look for guidance, never mind reflecting reality. That's because you're a moron m8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 That's because you're a moron m8. With that response I bow to your superior ranking in this department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 18 minutes ago, Ross. said: I see your point but feel the logic is flawed. Celtic spending 8x the money that Aberdeen spend does not mean that the gap should be the same as between PSG and Celtic if PSG also spend 8x the money that Celtic spend. Relatively speaking, Adam Rooney on 3k a week is far closer in ability to Leigh Griffiths on 24k a week than Griffiths on 24k a week is to Edison Cavani on 190k a week(Figures are illustrative but probably not a million miles away). Celtic, while clearly having a massive advantage over the rest of the Scottish League, are relatively poorer than the super clubs in Europe even if the financial gap is theoretically the same in terms of it being 1/8th or 1/10th each way. That's not to say that Celtic should not be doing better. They absolutely should, but it's not as simple as saying 10x more is the same gap so Celtic should also be winning 7-1 against everyone without breaking sweat. ETA: Already said that Rodgers deserves criticism. His approach is admirable from a "Football romantic" point of view but hugely fucking stupid from any realistic outlook at the game point of view Absolutely, the difference in quality doesn't go directly in proportion to budget so if it was Celtic having 8x the budget of their domestic opposition then PSG having 8x the budget of Celtic that disparity would be clear, and of course not everything in football comes down to the budget, but in reality we're talking about PSG having about 10x the budget of Celtic and Celtic having about 20x the budget of most of their opponents. It's not a like for like comparison. In any case, we're in agreement on Rodgers and I'm only really making this argument for the benefit of those who genuinely feel he's got no chance and/or should be applauded for his idealism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 2 hours ago, TheCelt67 said: Three pumpings aye but he's also given us our biggest and only our second away victory in the Champions League. In fact he has more Champions League away points than all previous managers combined. Was that against Lincoln Re.... aaaah, hold on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Reminds of the old song, 'Oh, Hampden in the sun'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booker-T Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Northboy said: I find that Scott Brown is a problem for Celtic at this level. He's exactly the type of player any team would want to have through a week in/week out league campaign but in Europe and internationally his touch, positional sense and decision making are found wanting. Watch him carefully - how many times does he give the ball away against better teams? This is the Scott Brown whose ball retention stats were the best for a UK based player in continental competition last season? Celtic's problem is that we went 3 vs 3 against the best attack in Europe at the moment with one unfit defender (Jozo) and one bottom six premiership standard (Boyata) and the best one (Lustig) got an early injury. Selection, tactics and recruitment were all at fault last night. There's a reason why Liverpool had a committee for recruitment. This isn't a "Rodgers out" rant - it's just 3 things we need take on board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northboy Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, Booker-T said: This is the Scott Brown whose ball retention stats were the best for a UK based player in continental competition last season? Aaah ... statistics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenlantern Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Sometimes you've got to just take your medicine. But some of the comments on here are too funny and beyond normal logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 17 hours ago, Shiresexsymbol said: You do have to feel for PSG though. How are they meant to be ready for the knockout stages when they have to play shite like that? They could put a Colts team into League Two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, GordonD said: They could put a Colts team into League Two... Not sure if sarcasm, but they do have a team in the 4th level of French football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 4 hours ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: Rankings are the last place I'd look for guidance, never mind reflecting reality. Where then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booker-T Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 5 hours ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: Rankings are the last place I'd look for guidance, never mind reflecting reality. say what now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackdaybob Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Lets all stop bickering and squabbling about budgets, ratios, rankings and suchlike and just enjoy the fact that they got proper fuckin pumped. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Pie and Bovril added, talkSPORTDriveVerified account @talkSPORTDrive POLL – After they suffered one of their worst ever defeats away from home in Europe last night, should Brendan Rodgers offer his resignation at Celtic? 6:56 PM - 23 Nov 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCelt67 Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 6 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said: Was that against Lincoln Re.... aaaah, hold on. That was the qualifiers. Not the Champions League. That aside, belter bantz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 5 hours ago, Ross. said: Not sure if sarcasm, but they do have a team in the 4th level of French football. I wonder how many they'd have scored against Celtic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 minute ago, GordonD said: I wonder how many they'd have scored against Celtic... None imo, because in recent years we have performed quite well against top flight French sides that aren’t backed by Qatari gazillionaires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 3 hours ago, EdTheDuck said: Pie and Bovril added, talkSPORTDriveVerified account @talkSPORTDrive POLL – After they suffered one of their worst ever defeats away from home in Europe last night, should Brendan Rodgers offer his resignation at Celtic? 6:56 PM - 23 Nov 2017 He's been the manager for their 2 worst ever European defeats plus their worst ever home European defeat. Not forgetting the defeat to Lincoln Red Imps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiresexsymbol Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 None imo, because in recent years we have performed quite well against top flight French sides that aren’t backed by Qatari gazillionaires. True, just like Aberdeen always seem to do well against sides not backed by Irish tax dodgers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiresexsymbol Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I wonder how many they'd have scored against Celtic... ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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