"The ICT Thread - From the Premiership to the Seaside"

[SandyCromarty]

1 hour ago, Cardle is Magic said:

He’s got a point about Gardiner tbf.

As awful as he seemingly was in the role, nobody else at the club took any responsibility and must shoulder the blame too.

It’s convenient to pile it all on one guy who’s already gone but these things happen when multiple people fail at their jobs.

Hopefully ICT can get something sorted out soon so the fans can focus on the games again.

The whole fiasco over the years was absolutely at club management level whether at board or CEO level the blame lies squarely there.

The fans had no part in what has transpired.

It has been a full Comedy of Errors. 

[Sergeant Wilson]

7 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said:

Apologies mate didn't mean to rev you up but given your take on yer team it explains why you spend so much time on this thread, have you tried knitting as a hobby to get your mind off yer teams travails.

^^^

[Shodwall cat]

4 hours ago, Cardle is Magic said:

Further evidence that when a guy presents himself as an “entrepreneur” it is almost always a sign that they are a con man.

Baffling that posters on P&B can see this from a brief Google search but football clubs take these shysters at face value

Mark Campbell  II

[Fraz]

1 hour ago, Cardle is Magic said:

He’s got a point about Gardiner tbf.

As awful as he seemingly was in the role, nobody else at the club took any responsibility and must shoulder the blame too.

It’s convenient to pile it all on one guy who’s already gone but these things happen when multiple people fail at their jobs.

Hopefully ICT can get something sorted out soon so the fans can focus on the games again.

Gardiner was a narcissistic, fantasist, incompetent p***k but yes the board, Morrison most were, at worst his enablers or at best asleep at the wheel while they bought into his bullshit. 

[Sir Tarmo]

We must be approaching about 30 rival posters now who have told us “not to conveniently pile it all on Gardiner” which absolutely nobody has done ever. He has been rightly ripped to shreds for his role but has never been the only one.

[the philosopher]

Such a parcel of rogues

[Cardle is Magic]

2 hours ago, Sir Tarmo said:

We must be approaching about 30 rival posters now who have told us “not to conveniently pile it all on Gardiner” which absolutely nobody has done ever. He has been rightly ripped to shreds for his role but has never been the only one.

To say nobody has done that is a tad disingenuous, no? 

He’s received by far the most blame and there was also a three-part article produced this week by a paper, with the very clear intention of singling him out as public enemy number one. 

3 hours ago, SandyCromarty said:

Apologies mate didn't mean to rev you up but given your take on yer team it explains why you spend so much time on this thread, have you tried knitting as a hobby to get your mind off yer teams travails.

It’s an open forum grandad, try to keep up.

[Stephen Malkmus]

4 hours ago, Cardle is Magic said:

He’s received by far the most blame and there was also a three-part article produced this week by a paper, with the very clear intention of singling him out as public enemy number one. 

He came up with the idea of moving the team to f**king Kelty for which he absolutely deserves that label. He's also been the CEO for the past five years. Again, none of which is to say the board are without blame for trying to push his schemes through - but at least they had the sense to stop the Kelty move after the outcry. Take your Gardiner defence act somewhere else.

[Sir Tarmo]

6 hours ago, Cardle is Magic said:

To say nobody has done that is a tad disingenuous, no? 

He’s received by far the most blame and there was also a three-part article produced this week by a paper, with the very clear intention of singling him out as public enemy number one. 

It’s an open forum grandad, try to keep up.

He has received the most blame because he deserves the most blame. He hasn’t been the only one blamed though, Morrison, Robertson, the rest of the board are all culpable. 

[Sir Tarmo]

7 hours ago, the philosopher said:

Such a parcel of rogues

This isn’t the South of Scotland League thread pal

[SandyCromarty]

7 hours ago, the philosopher said:

Such a parcel of rogues

Burns wrote of a 'parcel of rogues' to describe the Scots money grabbing landowners who sold Scotland out.

Our situation was that we had a board of 'businessmen' who fell into silly money traps which failed but also happily handed over the day to day running of our club to a cardboard c**t whose incompetency was well documented before he arrived at our club.

It is the Caley fans who have any dignity surrounding the mess the club is in.

[strichener]

8 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said:

It is the Caley fans who have any dignity surrounding the mess the club is in.

Some of them certainly do.  Not all of them.

[Central Belt Caley]

There’s no doubting Morrison and the other board members deserve a lot of the blame. However it’s hard to know what extent they knew about the clubs true financial outlook if the claims about Gardiner are true. 
 

Some of the stuff Gardiner’s done recently (allegedly - for Scot’s lawyers):

- Signed a kit deal twice the size of what we need

- Had 28,000 unread emails

- Lied to Charlie Christie that the loanees in January were coming up for free (Christie later received invoices from the clubs for these loans)

- Told Carlisle not to bother paying any compo for Cammy Harper

- Concocted the Kelty move (allegedly behind the boards back with Morrison)

That’s just some of the stuff that immediately springs to mind. I’d imagine the other board members have their own day jobs/companies and expected the CEO to have a certain level of competence (replying to emails isn’t difficult ffs). But quite rightly they deserve some of the blame for letting the club get into the state it’s in and not having more checks on SG.

[bdu98196]

Like the (alleged) true narcissist that SG is, its obvious that he has done what he wanted without conscience yet somehow comes out the other side garnering some sympathy. The man takes no responsibility yet knows how to manipulate those (board members & media) into somehow defending more than attacking him.

The facts all the signs around him have been there for years at not just ICT but elsewhere in Scottish football however are ignored and cast aside with false sympathies for his final predicaments citing others as complicit, attitudes like this may yet suggest he manages to get another job in football.

[Comrie]

16 hours ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

I am genuinely enraged by this guy being unable to spell the word “bias.” He does it f**king twice. 

I think he's trying to be smart and is referring to a computer's bios, but he's just coming across as a first class w**k.

[oneteaminglasgow]

12 minutes ago, Comrie said:

I think he's trying to be smart

He needs to try significantly harder, imo.