Colkitto Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 44 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said: I'll just leave this here. Tee hee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Big day today. Does puigdemont turn up for work? He has to imo. If he gets arrested it just condemns Spain's actions further. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 37 minutes ago, GTG_03 said: Big day today. Does puigdemont turn up for work? He has to imo. If he gets arrested it just condemns Spain's actions further. I thought there was a general strike called? Or does that not apply to separists politicians? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I thought there was a general strike called? Or does that not apply to separists politicians? I didn't know there was a strike called, just a peaceful opposition.Those dastardly separatists eh... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 20 minutes ago, GTG_03 said: I didn't know there was a strike called, just a peaceful opposition. Those dastardly separatists eh... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41798254 You're right, no mention of a strike in that report, I must have imagined it, or else it was one of the options being considered. But whoever wrote that headline is going to get his knuckles rapped for going off message "independence" indeed! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41798254 You're right, no mention of a strike in that report, I must have imagined it, or else it was one of the options being considered. But whoever wrote that headline is going to get his knuckles rapped for going off message "independence" indeed! Must be a rogue reporter with journalistic integrity...good for them! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 The spokescompany for the Westminster Government the BBC have already been quick to denounce the Catalan Government in their reporting, to me this is a Spanish issue and other countries should not get involved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) I was under the impression that Catalans thought of themselves as industrious folks while the rest of Spain were lazy folks on siesta half the day. Bit hypocritical to take a day off. Edited October 30, 2017 by TheProgressiveLiberal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, GTG_03 said: I didn't know there was a strike called, just a peaceful opposition. Those dastardly separatists eh... http://www.catalannews.com/politics/item/calls-for-indefinite-general-strike-intensify-as-crisis-escalates 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 On 10/27/2017 at 17:38, welshbairn said: Where are you? Pais Vasco or Podemos voting against is hardly breaking news surely? I just thought it was worth mentioning for context to an international audience - not that it is surprising. It was worth commenting too that the PSOE 's version of 155 could be very different from the PP. I'm in the Spanish Republic of Edinburgo! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I think the most important thing to me is what the majority of Catalans think. I think it's probable there is a majority but it is not clear. If you say 38% of a whole electorate coming out under oppression to vote - that is a lot of people and it is the hardcore. That is not including some stolen sheets. There are many people who would vote Yes that are 'less hardcore' that haven't actually voted... I'm sure there were a lot of soft Yes voters who were convinced for Scotland's vote in 2014 in the last few days. There are a lot of similar people in Catalonia. To say it is only 38% is logically unlikely. 20% of people never bother voting at all so this has to be thought through. On balance the Catalan government believes there is a popular majority so this is what is being followed. They might be wrong though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 On 10/28/2017 at 20:32, welshbairn said: I think he wanted to call a quick election but was overruled by his colleagues. That would have been the way to go, Rajoy has called one anyway for December. UDI without a clear mandate gives everyone a party, but nothing else. On the Puigdemont question... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 It's all getting a bit weird as rumours of Puigdemont and other Catalan leaders in Belgium seeking political asylum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Colkitto said: It's all getting a bit weird as rumours of Puigdemont and other Catalan leaders in Belgium seeking political asylum. I've read that Belgium offered him political asylum and Spain have issued a 6 million Euro bail amount on him and also they are going to charge senior Catalan Gov personnel with sedition and rebellion. Edited October 30, 2017 by SandyCromarty addition 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 52 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: On the Puigdemont question... Not sure how reliable that feed is. You'd have thought the likes of Catalan News would be all over the story if true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Not sure how reliable that feed is. You'd have thought the likes of Catalan News would be all over the story if true. I know. It just popped up. Thought it was worth stoking the irons a bit! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 My window cleaner has posted on FB saying he recognises Catalonias declaration of independence.Suspect it's game over now or at least he seems to think so.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 What a mess. I think the key thing to always remember in the fallout is that Spain were never going to grant permission for an official referendum on Independence. Look at the way they behaved after that unofficial referendum. They absolutely fucked it. Puigdemont and biys had no other alternative than to declare independence. They went #bawsoot like the absolute champions that they are. They might look like the bad guys in the news just now, they may look like they are in a corner with nowhere to go - but never forget what the Spanish Government did and why this all happened in the first place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 What a mess. I think the key thing to always remember in the fallout is that Spain were never going to grant permission for an official referendum on Independence. Look at the way they behaved after that unofficial referendum. They absolutely fucked it. Puigdemont and biys had no other alternative than to declare independence. They went #bawsoot like the absolute champions that they are. They might look like the bad guys in the news just now, they may look like they are in a corner with nowhere to go - but never forget what the Spanish Government did and why this all happened in the first place. Nice try.Puidgemont has been showboating and making it up as he goes along.Now he's ofski before the mess needs cleaned up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 The self confessed troll trying to drum up some attention. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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