D.A.F.C Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Pull My Strings said: What does anyone learn from one small bum slap? The point can only be to frighten our hurt otherwise where's the incentive to change behaviour? One wee bum slap is not going to achieve that. Running onto road = pain = one less dead kid 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 You cannot move at times because of all the kids who don't get smacked wandering aimlessly through traffic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 1 minute ago, chomp my root said: Sometimes there may be an element of that but if the kid see's how angry/frustrated/scared/worried/bat shit crazy their parent is about something then it might just stay with them. Most parents don't do it for shits and giggles, if and when they do. Sorry if this flies in the face of popular opinion on here. What? Of course they don't do it for shirts and giggles - they do it because they don't know what else to do and they've lost control. To be clear, I'm not suggesting that hitting kids doesn't work - in a very limited sense - depends what you want to achieve -I'm suggesting it's harmful and unnecessary. Not every parent who smacks is a bad parent but it's not good parenting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I wondered how long it would take for someone to mention the 'PC brigade' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I assumed from your user name that you had some connection to Glasgow. I do, through my dad (well, if you count Rutherglen as Glasgow) so am aware of plenty of phrases which are unfamiliar down here, but haven't heard that before.Checked with my dad and he knows it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: What? Of course they don't do it for shirts and giggles - they do it because they don't know what else to do and they've lost control. To be clear, I'm not suggesting that hitting kids doesn't work - in a very limited sense - depends what you want to achieve -I'm suggesting it's harmful and unnecessary. Not every parent who smacks is a bad parent but it's not good parenting. There are plenty that don't smack that are seriously bad parents. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: Running onto road = pain = one less dead kid I'm not convinced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 The BBC show you this wean- How about the kids that are utterly evil? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Just now, ayrmad said: There are plenty that don't smack that are seriously bad parents. Thanks for that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Pull My Strings said: What? Of course they don't do it for shirts and giggles - they do it because they don't know what else to do and they've lost control. To be clear, I'm not suggesting that hitting kids doesn't work - in a very limited sense - depends what you want to achieve -I'm suggesting it's harmful and unnecessary. Not every parent who smacks is a bad parent but it's not good parenting. Maybe not perfect parenting, I doubt anyone sets out looking to lay a hand on their kids but real life can get in the way. Its not always down to losing control, sometimes there will be exasperation/rage or whatever but if that is tempered to a (not too painful) smack instead of a roundhouse kick to the swede then its sometimes still the right thing to do at that second in time. If the kid learns a valuable lesson then its no harm done by a skelp. For me the big problem is those that are so dead set against it that they can't see that it might have a part to play for some in the way they bring up their kids. As I posted several pages ago, the only time I can remember hitting my kid was after repeatedly not looking when we were crossing the road. She really can't remember being hit, its not had a lasting effect. The problem for me seems to be that good parents will have a parenting tool removed from them, like any tool, either use it or don't, its up to you but stopping parents from having the option really isn't the way to stop bad parents battering weans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Making certain kids untouchable will breed bigger nightmare than is already unfolding with current generation kids, born under the " namby pamby" brigade. Imagine trying to act the hard man because you can beat up a child. Fucking Hell. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: What? Of course they don't do it for shirts and giggles - they do it because they don't know what else to do and they've lost control. To be clear, I'm not suggesting that hitting kids doesn't work - in a very limited sense - depends what you want to achieve -I'm suggesting it's harmful and unnecessary. Not every parent who smacks is a bad parent but it's not good parenting. How is a tap on the arse harmful? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidernation Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 ^^if it's left running it'll flood the house! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Just now, whiskychimp said: How is a tap on the arse harmful? This isn't the arse tapping thread, mate. If you want to tap your kids on the arse then you crack on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Raidernation said: ^^if it's left running it'll flood the house! You really don't want the drips from an arse tap flooding the house. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, chomp my root said: Maybe not perfect parenting, I doubt anyone sets out looking to lay a hand on their kids but real life can get in the way. Its not always down to losing control, sometimes there will be exasperation/rage or whatever but if that is tempered to a (not too painful) smack instead of a roundhouse kick to the swede then its sometimes still the right thing to do at that second in time. If the kid learns a valuable lesson then its no harm done by a skelp. For me the big problem is those that are so dead set against it that they can't see that it might have a part to play for some in the way they bring up their kids. As I posted several pages ago, the only time I can remember hitting my kid was after repeatedly not looking when we were crossing the road. She really can't remember being hit, its not had a lasting effect. The problem for me seems to be that good parents will have a parenting tool removed from them, like any tool, either use it or don't, its up to you but stopping parents from having the option really isn't the way to stop bad parents battering weans. You seem quite torn. No need. Just don't hit your kids. There's plenty of other ways to express your disapproval. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 31 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: What does anyone learn from one small bum slap? The point can only be to frighten our hurt otherwise where's the incentive to change behaviour? One wee bum slap is not going to achieve that. 3 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: This isn't the arse tapping thread, mate. If you want to tap your kids on the arse then you crack on. Bum slap. Arse tap. Potato potato. Still, let's stick with why its harmful? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: You seem quite torn. No need. Just don't hit your kids. There's plenty of other ways to express your disapproval. Not torn at all, no real guilt, my kid is 25 and we have a great relationship. Can't wait to beat the shit out the grand wean's though. Edit to add, As I have a great relationship with my mum who hit me occasionally and probably does feel remorse for it. My father was of the best men I've had the pleasure to meet and yup, he gave me a few well deserved scuds over the years, last one being when I was about 13 or 14. I was going out of my way to bait him at the time and I wasn't much smaller than him so being a cock basically. He was a lot more gentle than I probably would have been, hard to say, I've not had a son. Edited October 20, 2017 by chomp my root 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, whiskychimp said: Bum slap. Arse tap. Potato potato. Still, let's stick with why its harmful? Oh I see, you've entirely missed the point. Here it is: smacking isn't a little bum slap or an arse tap. The point of smacking is to inflict pain and/or fear and/or humiliation otherwise how is it supposed to influence behaviour? A little 'bum slap' or 'arse tap' is completely irrelevant and anyone hiding behind that sort of terminology is kidding themself as to what they're actually doing to their kids. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heedthebaa Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: You seem quite torn. No need. Just don't hit your kids. There's plenty of other ways to express your disapproval. Yes there is, just sit back, do f**k all and tell all c**t they have ADHD 5 minutes ago, chomp my root said: Can't wait to beat the shit out the grand wean's though. Doesn't work that way I'm afraid, you'll just want to smack your child for chastising your grandwean 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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