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5 hours ago, SimonLichtie said:

The other historical ground that's interested me that we've played at is Balgay Park in Dundee - very close to where I now stay, and I'm forever walking around wondering where the pitch our legends of the 1890s graced was :lol:

Thanks for informative reply. Is it possible the Balgay Park ground was on what is now Victoria Park? 

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16 minutes ago, Eednud said:

Thanks for informative reply. Is it possible the Balgay Park ground was on what is now Victoria Park? 

When we moved down from Deeside to Dundee in 1966, we stayed right next to Lochee Park, across the hill from Balgay/Victoria Park. Had to walk through both to get to Harris Academy every school day an couldn't ever have imagined it as a football ground. In my mind's eye it's not at all flat. Memory maybe playing tricks though.

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13 hours ago, SimonLichtie said:

I believe it is the same player :)

The Station Park, Barnhill is absolutely fasinating to me - mainly because I grew up close to there and it would've seen Arbroath play a game within walking distance of my mum and dads house!

Below is a picture of the station from 1932:

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Below is newspaper currently from the late 1890s/ 1900s (what should of idiot doesn't save the date alongside the newspaper cutting FFS!? :()

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Below is the 2024 google map:

 

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From memory, the ground only lasted a few decades and if I remember rightly it was built on in the 1920s or so.....

Putting it all together I think the ground was where the half a dozen or so houses in the bottom left of the top picture are..... do those houses look recently ish built for the time (within 1-10 years of the picture being taken?). If so, then I'd be very confident I'm right, if not........ bollocks :lol: 

The other historical ground that's interested me that we've played at is Balgay Park in Dundee - very close to where I now stay, and I'm forever walking around wondering where the pitch our legends of the 1890s graced was :lol: 

In a bigger picture - one of the many things on my 'to do' list is to make a modern day google map of every ground we've ever played at.......  I'd also be interested in doing the same for the entire country, but I feel that would maybe be slightly excessive/ take several thousand plus hours....

To start you off: You once played on a pitch at Heriot Watt University roughly where the Oriam is now. It was a pre-season against Meadowbank Thistle c.1992

Obscurity... :lol:

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On 25/04/2024 at 18:03, Glen Scotia said:

When Aberdeen reached the cup winners cup final in Gothenburg apparently Alex Ferguson invited both Jock Stein and Jim McLean as guests to the game.

I don't know how true this is but there is apparently a photo out there of both Stein and McLean at the game both shouting out 'orders/support' 

Does anyone have any info on this at all? 

Jim McLean in disguise wearing a Mutley mask.

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12th August 1978, Saints ruin treble-winning Rangers (1872) flag day.

A late goal by supersub Bobby Torrance (12) in a 1-0 win, Saints first league won at Ibrox in 14 years.

Also pictured are John Young, Peter Weir, Frank McGarvey and Billy Abercromby.

I was there, the Copland Road development had started and both sets of fans were in the Broomloan end...not nice.

 

 

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On 27/04/2024 at 08:56, SimonLichtie said:

IBelow is newspaper currently from the late 1890s/ 1900s (what should of idiot doesn't save the date alongside the newspaper cutting FFS!? :()

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It's the Dundee Courier from 16 September 1902.

This is the site in 1901...

 

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54yrs ago:

Celtic prepped for European Cup Final v Feyenoord, at... Fraserburgh.

All bar 1 crew of lifeboat Duchess of Kent drowned when it capsized responding to a callout in a January storm.


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47 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:

Liverpool v St Mirren, February 1954.

Saints win the 2nd half 2-0

If anybody is wondering how both clubs had a free Saturday in February - they'd each exited the FA and Scottish cups at the first hurdle: Liverpool at Bolton; St Mirren at home to Motherwell.

It was quite common from 1950s to 1970s for such clubs, if lacking a scheduled league game or an outstanding game wanting rescheduled, to arrange "Anglo Scottish friendlies" - often on Friday night once floodlights became widespread (perhaps as many fans headed for a cup-tie somewhere else on Saturday?). Sometimes these became mini-tours.

On this occasion Scottish Cup R2 was actually the week before... St Mirren and East Fife advanced their league game to free themselves for a jaunt.

St Mirren went on to lose 3-2 at Leeds on the Monday:

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Third Lanark lost 1-0 at Accrington on the Saturday... but East Fife jammed in 3 games, losing 4-1 at Accrington on preceding Monday, then winning 4-1 at Carlisle on Tuesday, before losing narrowly 2-1 at Manchester City on the Saturday. There are probably more.

Saints headed back down on QF day losing 2-1 at Portsmouth:

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It was rare for English sides to come here.

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The Liverpool game was over 10 years before I was born but the same principle (out of the Scottish/English Cups) resulted in a game I WAS at.

ST.Mirren v Arsenal February 1981

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A local jeweller put up a trophy which Arsenal won 3-2, I'd assume it resides in their trophy room.

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14 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:

The Liverpool game was over 10 years before I was born but the same principle (out of the Scottish/English Cups) resulted in a game I WAS at.

ST.Mirren v Arsenal February 1981

Sunday 15th February 1981 - St Mirren 2-3 Arsenal (9,389)... for the Provan Jewellers Challenge Cup :lol:!

EDIT: interestingly moved back 24hrs from Saturday over SFA objections it might suppress attendance at Morton v Aberdeen (which drew 8,350).

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1962 both out of the Cup so Arsenal and Dundee met home and away. 17 Feb 2-2 at Highbury and at Dens Park on 10 Mar 1-0 to the Arsenal. 16,341 at Highbury and 10,000 at Dens. Not sure if a programme was issued for the game at Dens. Can’t find anything about the game at Dens other than the Arsenal lineup.
 

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Dewar Shield Semi Final in 1899. Reporter not taken with Fair City Atheltic’s Muirton Bank Park. Arbroath won 3-2. Had almost forgotten the word “humph” existed or that some people used to be classed as “humphy backit”.

 

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7 hours ago, Eednud said:

The same day Dundee were at Highbury, Dundee United beat Manchester City 2-1 at Tannadice before 

 

 

"before" what? Having their dinner? Going to the pub? Going to bed early?

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7 hours ago, Eednud said:

1962 both out of the Cup so Arsenal and Dundee met home and away. 17 Feb 2-2 at Highbury and at Dens Park on 10 Mar 1-0 to the Arsenal. 16,341 at Highbury and 10,000 at Dens. Not sure if a programme was issued for the game at Dens. Can’t find anything about the game at Dens other than the Arsenal lineup. http://www.thearsenalhistory.com/stat/aftlu.htm

 

7 hours ago, Eednud said:

The same day Dundee were at Highbury, Dundee United beat Manchester City 2-1 at Tannadice before 


Occurs to me that as English clubs were banned from preseason friendlies until 1961 (for Scottish clubs 1966 and not at home until 1967): it also was about only chance to meet on a weekend.

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