Marshmallo Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: I'm sorry but as part of a 2 man centre pairing Tierney would get rag dolled at International level. Any top forward worth his salt is going to play off of him and use his physicality against him. Back three and he's a great shout. What do you mean by "International level"? San Marino? France? Greece? How many teams we come up against have a "top forward"? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, DrewDon said: I think the solution Strachan seemed to have settled on latterly, if I recall correctly, with Tierney at right-back and Robertson at left-back is probably still our best bet. I'm sure Tierney would be fine as a left sided centre-back in a three, but I'd be reluctant to have Robertson as a wing-back as I think he's most effective offensively when he is running from deeper. Palmer has mostly been good and should be ahead of O'Donnell in the pecking order, but it's not like Tierney would be depriving us of an excellent natural right-back by playing there. Serious question - how many times has Tierney played RB for Scotland and against whom? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: What do you mean by "International level"? San Marino? France? Greece? How many teams we come up against have a "top forward"? The teams we are competing with to gain qualification. Most of them have a forward who would walk in to our starting line up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Just now, Merkland Red said: The teams we are competing with to gain qualification. Most of them have a forward who would walk in to our starting line up. Fair for not answering the questions -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, DrewDon said: I think the solution Strachan seemed to have settled on latterly, if I recall correctly, with Tierney at right-back and Robertson at left-back is probably still our best bet. I'm sure Tierney would be fine as a left sided centre-back in a three, but I'd be reluctant to have Robertson as a wing-back as I think he's most effective offensively when he is running from deeper. Palmer has mostly been good and should be ahead of O'Donnell in the pecking order, but it's not like Tierney would be depriving us of an excellent natural right-back by playing there. I think he'd be fine as a wing back as he's still running from deep. Playing as an old fashioned winger is a no-no though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: Serious question - how many times has Tierney played RB for Scotland and against whom? According to a quick Google search, he played there six times under Strachan in the 2018 World Cup qualifying campaign, which sounds about right - I think I recall him playing there against Slovakia and Slovenia at Hampden and away to Lithuania, off the top of my head (although I could be misremembering). Edited July 18, 2020 by DrewDon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 minute ago, DrewDon said: According to a quick Google search, he played there six times under Strachan in the 2018 World Cup qualifying campaign, which sounds about right - I think I recall him playing there against Slovakia and Slovenia at Hampden and away to Lithuania, off the top of my head (although I could be misremembering). And in those games he got better and better. Agree that rb is where Tierney should be playing. Personally i dont think he'd be big enough or physical enough to play as a centre back in a 2. We're not going to play 532 (i hope) So put him at right back. That's where were really struggling. He's a massive improvement on palmer. Im surprised anyone is still touting o'donnell. He's looked way way out of his depth against the better teams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: Fair for not answering the questions I answered it. The teams we are battling with to qualify have forwards who are more than competent at International level. Are you saying Dzyuba wouldn't get a game for Scotland? The Belgians go without saying. Can you really see Tierney stopping Haaland? No doubt he has a good chance of containing him on the ground but Norway are not going to play against him there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: The teams we are competing with to gain qualification. Most of them have a forward who would walk in to our starting line up. Cyprus, Kazakhstan, and San Marino? Whos their forward to walk into our team? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 minute ago, BingMcCrosby said: Cyprus, Kazakhstan, and San Marino? Whos their forward to walk into our team? The Kazakhstan forwards who scored three against us out there certainly would. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: The Kazakhstan forwards who scored three against us out there certainly would. Quick Google search says none of their forwards scored. It's was 3 midfielders. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 And in those games he got better and better. Agree that rb is where Tierney should be playing. Personally i dont think he'd be big enough or physical enough to play as a centre back in a 2. We're not going to play 532 (i hope) So put him at right back. That's where were really struggling. He's a massive improvement on palmer. Im surprised anyone is still touting o'donnell. He's looked way way out of his depth against the better teams.Can he not play left inside forward like Anya did? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 And either way. If your judging whos the better player it might be fair to do it over more than one game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 He has done really well since the restart. He also seems to be a decent guy unlike Robertson who’s a total knobend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 minute ago, BingMcCrosby said: Quick Google search says none of their forwards scored. It's was 3 midfielders. If true, that tells a story on its own, doesn't it? Travelled across six time zones to watch Graeme Shinnie play left back for Scotland that night. His only positive contribution was to ensure Liam Palmer wasn't the worst player on the park. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: If true, that tells a story on its own, doesn't it? Travelled across six time zones to watch Graeme Shinnie play left back for Scotland that night. His only positive contribution was to ensure Liam Palmer wasn't the worst player on the park. And you're advocating Tierney not starting I would like to but I can't say what I think. I would be in trouble, I would be suspended. I don't want to be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Bit late on this one but to suggest O’Donnell is a better option than Palmer and Tierney is an absolutely wild one. He’s levels behind Palmer, never mind Tierney. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 49 minutes ago, DrewDon said: According to a quick Google search, he played there six times under Strachan in the 2018 World Cup qualifying campaign, which sounds about right - I think I recall him playing there against Slovakia and Slovenia at Hampden and away to Lithuania, off the top of my head (although I could be misremembering). We were unbeaten in the 6 games that he played at right-back under Strachan. 4 wins and 2 draws. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: If true, that tells a story on its own, doesn't it? Travelled across six time zones to watch Graeme Shinnie play left back for Scotland that night. His only positive contribution was to ensure Liam Palmer wasn't the worst player on the park. Christ knows, google says so. But ive never heard of any of them. Tbh I didn't even watch that game, probably working. But I prefered palmer to o'donnell over the campaign. Just thought he was slightly better on the ball and had better awareness and passing. O'donnell just seemed to be out of ideas quickly against decent teams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: And you're advocating Tierney not starting I would like to but I can't say what I think. I would be in trouble, I would be suspended. I don't want to be. Eh????? If my opinion of Tierney, O'Donnell and Palmer at RB have that effect, then maybe you should take a break from the keyboard for a while. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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