EdiBairn Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said: That last paragraph. Doh There’s no apparently about it. He’s head and shoulders above any other striker we have Why do we need to play with an out and out striker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Robertson is one of the best left backs in Europe right now. To put him at LM merely to allow KT a game in that position seems a little bit strange. Not as strange as the idea that Championship hoofers like Cairney and Burke (Burke?) would be better in the Scotland squad than the Celtic boys who helped us go unbeaten in 2018. That's just bizarre. Gareth bale was a left back remember. I would like to see Robertson given a more attacking role in a friendly. If it doesn't work...fine - but it's possible we could have him in an even more influential position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, EdiBairn said: Why do we need to play with an out and out striker? More chance of scoring goals IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejan Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Mexico could have scored at least five, if they could shoot ; but don't think it was that bad a performance from a very, very make shift Scotland team. Hendry did well(apart from the goal) and looks like he can actually use his feet to control a ball. Something we sorely need in a defender. O'Donnell - I thought did pretty well. Never seen the Peru game, but can't think of anything he did wrong, and sounds like he's delighted to be involved. I'm not a 'if he's no signing FOS, get him oot' type but certainly nice to hear someone so full of joy and pride at playing for the national team, especially considering the lack of interest and panning these games seemed to get by a lot of the media/fans. The two keepers did alright as well in the Mexico game ; McKenna didn't do anything wrong from my bet365 phone watching as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy2015 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 The good thing about all these posts is it shows for the first time in 20 years we have choices and competition for places especially in midfield. If you look at central midfield for example Armstrong McGregor Mcginn Mc tominay McArthur Cairney Mcgeogh Adam McDonald Fletcher Morrison Bannan. Then there are players who might come through for example Docherty Campbell Henderson Cadden Mallen. Just feel we need 1 superstar like Bale and a top class manager and we would walk qualification for the Euros and prob male the World Cup to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, skippy2015 said: Just feel we need 1 superstar like Bale Trouble is we've probably not had a superstar since Kenny Dalglish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Ive said this several times on here now. We would be better throwing all the money available at proper centres of excellence and the youth sides and have a set way of playing that's modern, progressive and good to watch. We seem to have youth sides capable of getting to the knock out stages of tournaments but the players get lost somehow. Something completely different like rosters giving players out to championship or bottom half SPL sides to bring them on rather than having them rot on the bench for top half SPL sides. The St Mirren player who left for Celtic is a prime example. He's finished now, a year wasted at Celtic then on loan to hibs. He's arguably the best young Scottish player. Also maybe think about looking at how Livvy, Accies and a few others managed to bring through so many good youngsters. Get the coaches in the Scotland setup rather than just appointing some random ex Scotland player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtemisClydeFrog Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 9 hours ago, EdiBairn said: Obviously not every single player in the EPL will be better than those in the Premiership but with a few exceptions, the vast majority are. Most Championship players are also better. It's not just about ability- it's about the level they're playing at. Guys used to playing against Agüero and Hazard are going to be much more used to the standards required than if they're playing against Connor Sammon and Andy Halliday. Then why did Scotland's performances and results improve when the Celtic players were introduced? This logic on rating players almost solely on which clubs/leagues they play for/in is nonsensical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdiBairn Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, ArtemisClydeFrog said: Then why did Scotland's performances and results improve when the Celtic players were introduced? This logic on rating players almost solely on which clubs/leagues they play for/in is nonsensical. Performances improved because the players picked aren't the only factor that affects results- it can be down to different tactics, styles of play, managerial instructions. But the fact remains, the team still failed to qualify. If the league players play in doesn't matter, why don't we call up Rory McAllister? He had a great season in league 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 4 hours ago, skippy2015 said: Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Performances improved because the players picked aren't the only factor that affects results- it can be down to different tactics, styles of play, managerial instructions. But the fact remains, the team still failed to qualify. If the league players play in doesn't matter, why don't we call up Rory McAllister? He had a great season in league 2. Absolutely clutching, we improved because of the Celtic players coming into the side. The team that played the second half of the campaign would have qualified comfortably. As for the McAllister point - f**k me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdiBairn Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: Absolutely clutching, we improved because of the Celtic players coming into the side. The team that played the second half of the campaign would have qualified comfortably. As for the McAllister point - f**k me. You mean the team that couldn't beat Slovenia, ending our hopes of qualifying? The difference between Scottish league 2 and the Premiership is lower than the difference between it and the EPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 You mean the team that couldn't beat Slovenia, ending our hopes of qualifying? The difference between Scottish league 2 and the Premiership is lower than the difference between it and the EPL. No. The team that played Slovenia didn’t have Armstrong, McGinn or McGregor and instead diddies from supposed better leagues, Bannan, McArthur, Martin and Phillips. It’s common knowledge that Strachan reverted to type when it came to that crunch Slovenia game and played guys like Fletcher/McArthur/Phillips/Bannan and Martin, probably for the reasons you have stated, leaving us with no energy, pace or creativity in the team. That was literally one of the biggest criticisms of him. You’re really struggling here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 4 hours ago, D.A.F.C said: The St Mirren player who left for Celtic is a prime example. He's finished now, a year wasted at Celtic then on loan to hibs. He's arguably the best young Scottish player. Who's this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 No. The team that played Slovenia didn’t have Armstrong, McGinn or McGregor and instead diddies from supposed better leagues, Bannan, McArthur, Martin and Phillips. It’s common knowledge that Strachan reverted to type when it came to that crunch Slovenia game and played guys like Fletcher/McArthur/Phillips/Bannan and Martin, probably for the reasons you have stated, leaving us with no energy, pace or creativity in the team. That was literally one of the biggest criticisms of him. You’re really struggling here He didn't revert to type out of choice. Armstrong and brown were both unavailable - a massive setback. Players ultimately make the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdiBairn Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 6 hours ago, 1320Lichtie said: No. The team that played Slovenia didn’t have Armstrong, McGinn or McGregor and instead diddies from supposed better leagues, Bannan, McArthur, Martin and Phillips. It’s common knowledge that Strachan reverted to type when it came to that crunch Slovenia game and played guys like Fletcher/McArthur/Phillips/Bannan and Martin, probably for the reasons you have stated, leaving us with no energy, pace or creativity in the team. That was literally one of the biggest criticisms of him. You’re really struggling here If Armstrong and 'Broony' had been available, they'd have been playing. I also haven't called for Martin, Fletcher or Bannan to br playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Slovenia have been undefeated at home for ages. We should have done it, but are not alone in failing to do so. This is classic scottish cringe nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 11 hours ago, Lurkst said: Trouble is we've probably not had a superstar since Kenny Dalglish. We've potentially got 2 superstars in Robertson and Tierney. Unfortunately, they're both left-backs. Why can't one be a forward ? :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdiBairn Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: We've potentially got 2 superstars in Robertson and Tierney. Unfortunately, they're both left-backs. Why can't one be a forward ? :-( Robertson is the best player we've had for a long time, and we need to build the team round him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 You mean the team that couldn't beat Slovenia, ending our hopes of qualifying? The difference between Scottish league 2 and the Premiership is lower than the difference between it and the EPL. A point against Slovenia away wasn’t a bad result in isolation. And yes I think we would have won with Armstrong, McGregor and Brown al starting. What cost us was the hopeless performances from the Premiership/Championship core at the start of the campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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