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6 minutes ago, Iminavest said:

The officials watching the VAR screens should be given 30 seconds to review. If they can't decide after that with various angles/speeds then there's no way any decision can be deemed to be a clear and obvious error. 

30 seconds, wearing an eye patch and a TV from 1998.

If they can't get it right then why even bother?

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4 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

30 seconds, wearing an eye patch and a TV from 1998.

If they can't get it right then why even bother?

Enough time to get any offsides or in/out the box decisions correct. If it's a subjective decision then no matter how long you take, not everyone will agree. 

 

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Just now, Deanburn Dave said:
11 minutes ago, Iminavest said:
The officials watching the VAR screens should be given 30 seconds to review. If they can't decide after that with various angles/speeds then there's no way any decision can be deemed to be a clear and obvious error. 

The test is "clear and obvious". 30 seconds more than ample.

So can the opposition players hound the ref until the 30 seconds are up?

30 seconds to check for a foul, then check offsides etc all the while the VAR is relying on a video assistant to feed them the appropriate replays.

What happens if the clock is hitting 30 and VAR hasn't had time to conclusively look at the incident and just guesses, then is proven wrong? It happened in the Tottenham vs Chelsea game. Kane was definitely offside but trying to get it done quickly made it a farce.

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2 minutes ago, The Master said:

I love how Peter Walton could give two f**ks about the opinion of Rio Ferdinand and Owen Hargreaves on the first penalty.

No arguing...just reiterating that it was a correct decision whenever he spoke.

And after being TELT Rio starts going on about the length of time instead of admitting he is wrong.

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19 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

The penalty was a stick on. Even the English ref on BT said it was.

Not quite. He said “we might see a penalty here”....invaluable insight. Hope they are paying the boy top dollar. Sitting on the fence as usual these boys 

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How is that first penalty handball deliberate? His hands are down at his side in a perfectly 'normal' position, and the ball is smashed at him in a fraction of a second, even then he tries to remove his arm at the last millisecond.

The vast majority of fouls given for handball are not actually deliberate, yet are still given. This is a great example of one.

 

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Just now, Diamonds are Forever said:

How is that first handball deliberate? His hands are down at his side in a perfectly 'normal' position, and the ball is smashed at him in a fraction of a second, even then he tries to remove his arm at the last millisecond.

The vast majority of fouls given for handball are not actually deliberate, yet are still given. This is a great example of one.

 

His arm was outstretched. If it were by his side he wouldn't have had to try and pull it back towards his body.

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Just now, Deanburn Dave said:

30 seconds more than enough if clear and obvious. As for players surrounding the ref he tells them to GTF and gets the cards out if they don't.

This should eb the case even without VAR. Issues like playa cting, surrounding the ref etc are easy to fix. This is why I am sure FIFA genreally dont care about fixing them, You go int he dressing room pre game and tell them straight up that you will card anyone who runs up after a foul etc, then do it. After a few weeks of needless sendings off, managers will learn and deal with it. 

Players hounding the ref is coached into them.

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