carpetmonster Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 1 hour ago, coprolite said: It’s aspirational People don’t necessarily vote for what’s actually best for them but for what they think will be best for them in their own deluded fantasies. Lots of stupid people think that they will become very wealthy simply by owning increasingly expensive houses and are too stupid to realise that they might not do that, and even if they do they’ll take on increasingly large mortgages that would also come out of their estate. There are millions of stupid people and stupid people are disproportionately likely to vote Tory. Low income workers in Basildon and East Grinstead will vote for this despite having a minuscule chance of it saving them money just because they can picture themselves living in a mansion. It’s the Mark Twain thing (I’m sure, anyway, 99% of these things are Twain) that ‘there are no poor people, only temporarily embarrassed millionaires’ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarHibee Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 "I'm not poor, I just haven't made it yet in my dead end McDonald's job flipping burgers 60 hours a week. I'm voting tory!" - The English electorate in a nutshell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapy FFC Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 6 hours ago, Suspect Device said: Cut a tax that only the very rich would have to pay? Is that really a vote winner? https://advisingfamilies.org/uk/information-portal/life-after-death/inheritance-tax-explained/?gclid=CjwKCAjwh8mlBhB_EiwAsztdBDe2EmE_Yi0mztzgXUqORHHoi96KY9-zUwh2GDPvrpJUEVFJY-7LqBoCXUAQAvD_BwE It's probably the case that the very rich do not pay the tax as it stands because they can easily pay wealth managers to put all their money outwith the scope of the tax. The people who do pay it are the everyday "accidentally wealthy" people who happen to have been in a house for 30 odd years that's increased in value and have retired from a reasonably paid job and taken a lump sum from their pension. The tax needs to be reformed so that it's not just these people who pay it, but the really wealthy that it's intended to hit, but who get missed every time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 1 hour ago, StellarHibee said: "I'm not poor, I just haven't made it yet in my dead end McDonald's job flipping burgers 60 hours a week. I'm voting tory!" - The English electorate in a nutshell Jeff Bezos used to flip burgers at McDonalds before he got a massive loan from his parents to help start up his own business. Inheritance tax would stop other parents helping their own kids to become billionaires too. It is so unfair. Boo hoo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Fullerene said: Jeff Bezos used to flip burgers at McDonalds before he got a massive loan from his parents to help start up his own business. Inheritance tax would stop other parents helping their own kids to become billionaires too. It is so unfair. Boo hoo. It wouldn't as long as Bezos' parents lived for 7 years after giving him the cash or he paid back the loan. And they happened to be subject to UK tax laws. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Extremely cool that the leader of the UK’s (nominally) more left wing party has been pandering to these exact views for years now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 3 hours ago, StellarHibee said: "I'm not poor, I just haven't made it yet in my dead end McDonald's job flipping burgers 60 hours a week. I'm voting tory!" - The English electorate in a nutshell Also "I've finally made into a £35k middle-management role, fucked myself financially with a mortgage and car lease that I can't afford, and I'll be buggered if I'm going to let the minimum-wage scum take anything from me or my contemporaries Jacob Rees-Mogg and Boris Johnson." 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 28 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Extremely cool that the leader of the UK’s (nominally) more left wing party has been pandering to these exact views for years now. It’s all very depressing. What’s more depressing is that membership of the supposedly more radical and socially acceptable alternative in Scotland came within a few thousand votes of electing a right-wing, self confessed homophobe as party leader. We live in interesting desperate times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 43 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: It’s all very depressing. What’s more depressing is that membership of the supposedly more radical and socially acceptable alternative in Scotland came within a few thousand votes of electing a right-wing, self confessed homophobe as party leader. We live in interesting desperate times. No they didn't and no serious commentator would share as such 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Extremely cool that the leader of the UK’s (nominally) more left wing party has been pandering to these exact views for years now. They appear to have encountered Middle England's most left-wing swing voter. Edited July 15, 2023 by DrewDon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Dan Wooton pleading for money from the dumb dumbs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 On 15/07/2023 at 17:59, Suspect Device said: It wouldn't as long as Bezos' parents lived for 7 years after giving him the cash or he paid back the loan. And they happened to be subject to UK tax laws. One good reason for a proper wealth tax. And rebuilding the empire 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 time for a thread name change. The acceptance..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eindhovendee Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 On 21/07/2023 at 23:01, DukDukGoose said: Dan Wooton pleading for money from the dumb dumbs. Byline Times don't seem to be letting up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 The state of this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 17 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: The state of this. Eilidh Barbour made me laugh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarHibee Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I like how they managed to smuggle Yousaf in there. The same guy who "couldn't make the vote" over gay marriage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 That's such a piece of shit that no one at the Mail was willing to put their names to it. According to the article being Welsh seems to be Woke these days, they'll throw you in jail for that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 On 27/07/2023 at 18:46, eindhovendee said: Byline Times don't seem to be letting up. Private Eye has also piled in. Normally I'm a bit reluctant to endorse public exposure like this but in Wootton's case I'll happily make an exception. And given the demographic of the tiny GB News viewership I think he'll be lucky to reach three figures in his appeal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: The state of this. I'd add Rom to that list 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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