Genuine Hibs Fan Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: Why wouldn't they? If found not to have it could derail the trial. And as they're all died in the wool unionist feminists desperate to find him guilty that's the last thing they'd want 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, ICTJohnboy said: Can only repeat what BawWatchin said. I wouldn't if I was you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn Necessities Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Woman H - 'Some of the stuff in the diary will have happened and some of it won't. That's the nature of the beast' An, ahem, interesting choice of phrase... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 hours ago, NotThePars said: People would be more likely to concede on BawWatchin’s point if he hadn’t suggested appointing women to a jury meant it was a feminist witch-hunt tbf. I wouldn't concede the point. Every trial is reported like this. When the prosecution is making its case, the prosecution perspective gets reported. When the defence makes its case, you should expect the same. Media has never, never ever, stuck to a middle line of sticking "alleged" in there. They report what was said in court. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 The BBC take the quotation marks thing to the extreme, does my head in. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-51817397 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: I get it completely. I disagree with you. As has been explained to you many times now, the use of quotations makes it abundantly clear that it is an allegation. A statement of fact would be - Woman humiliated after Alex Salmond lay on her naked. When a news outlet publishes this I'll be more than happy to be upset about it but I can't pretend not to be able to parse simple English because I support independence. I think you're being generous to the general public. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I wouldn't concede the point. Every trial is reported like this.See also https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-51801840 which is currently on the main UK BBC News page. It's definitely a normal way of reporting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: I think you're being generous to the general public. I mean sure, some folk are thick. But that is literally what the use of that language in that context means. Something is being quoted, and in a court that would be the testimony of a witness. I'm aware I look like I'm being willfully blind/obtuse, and that they could have put in "alleged" or "court hears". But it doesn't change the meaning of what is actually being written, and some folk will get upset about how this is reported regardless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, Geez a Braco said: Woman H went on to say she had told her husband while they were on holiday together some time later that she was considering speaking to SNP headquarters about some "bad things" involving Mr Salmond that had happened to her during the independence referendum campaign, but had not gone into any detail. Mrs H's husband clearly doesn't care about his wife's welfare or that was clearly made up. I always switched off when my girlfriend whinged about work stuff, likely just nodded sympathetically while not taking it in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I always switched off when my girlfriend whinged about work stuff, likely just nodded sympathetically while not taking it in. #metoo However, if the chat was “Eck Salmond got naked and tried to pump me” my ears would probably have p***ked up. “bad things“ is way too cryptic. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I fee a bit bad for Eck. It’s a Rolf Harris type situation where I don’t want it to be true. Hopefully he isn’t a sex pest but it doesn’t look good for him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Scary Bear said: #metoo However, if the chat was “Eck Salmond got naked and tried to pump me” my ears would probably have p***ked up. “bad things“ is way too cryptic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 My dream:Salmond convicted->YesSaorAlbaGuBrath Da meltdown->Independence->Normal people in charge->YesSaorAlbaGuBrath Das' citizenship revokedMine is a "Not Proven". Eternal #scenes guaranteed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Pack Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Not Proven but guilty as f**k. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 The fact it's always prosecution first, defence second will have an effect on perception too.Aye. Imagine if it were presented the other way around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 "I was told he was a sex offender but I just kind of, never wanted to tell anybody else". Theres, in itself, is the reason (mostly) women don't come forward and report offences. He should be in the Dock alongside the fat creepy b*****d. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Scary Bear said: I fee a bit bad for Eck. It’s a Rolf Harris type situation where I don’t want it to be true. Hopefully he isn’t a sex pest but it doesn’t look good for him. Problem is, we'll never know whether he truly is or not, regardless of the verdict. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 4 hours ago, BawWatchin said: Problem is, we'll never know whether he truly is or not, regardless of the verdict. What do you suggest in place of a trial? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Sergeant Wilson said: What do you suggest in place of a trial? Burn the witches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, HTG said: Burn the witches. Legal process must be followed. The ducking stool first, if they drown their innocent. If they survive, feel free to burn them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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