Rjc-1988 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 That's the problem, our decline started quite a few games before Dobbie got injured but our Manager's then obsession of sitting back and soaking up pressure and tying to steal points meant that Dobbie was often left stranded up front trying to stop 3 or 4 opposition defenders from playing out from the back. No wonder he looked pissed off a lot of the time. Now our Manager realises that we now have to try and win games to achieve safety and is playing a more attacking style Dobbie hasn't been available. Agree totally.We have actually started to play a more open game recently but without Dobbie the chances invariably fall to players who are not natural finishers and some who just don’t want to take any responsibility in front of goal. Had we deployed the same tactics all season it is inconceivable that we would be in this position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 The same tactics that saw you being eviscerated 4-0 the other night would have been your saviour all along - nae bother then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueSue Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 1 hour ago, virginton said: The same tactics that saw you being eviscerated 4-0 the other night would have been your saviour all along - nae bother then. I agree. Since Playing a more open style of football Queens have dropped like a stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I agree. Since Playing a more open style of football Queens have dropped like a stone.You're kidding right? Deploying Dobbie up front with little support and trying to shitebag draws is what's helped us drop like a stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueSue Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: 1 hour ago, SueSue said: I agree. Since Playing a more open style of football Queens have dropped like a stone. You're kidding right? Deploying Dobbie up front with little support and trying to shitebag draws is what's helped us drop like a stone. Since a more open style of football Queens have gone from 4th / 5th at the turn of the year to 8th/9th Is that not correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Since a more open style of football Queens have gone from 4th / 5th at the turn of the year to 8th/9th Is that not correct? Since the turn of the year they’ve lost Semple who was arguably their best defender after Doyle. And teams below them have improved. They also lost Josh Todd to injury for a while and Dobbie wasn’t scoring as regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Since a more open style of football Queens have gone from 4th / 5th at the turn of the year to 8th/9th Is that not correct? No. When did we start playing this open style of football you're talking about? We are where we are because we don't do enough attacking (something we've shown we're actually capable of doing well) and instead have approached games more defensively (something we've shown we're actually pretty poor at, if we allow crosses to come in). We were comfortably on top until the goal on Friday when we were playing an open game (something we actually did successfully against Dunfermline the week before) and it was down to our inability to mark that we went behind. After we went behind the open style seemed to disappear, we returned to sitting in and got comfortably thumped. If we had played a more open style throughout the season I'm confident we wouldn't be needing a win to stay up on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fae_the_'briggs Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 2 hours ago, SueSue said: I agree. Since Playing a more open style of football Queens have dropped like a stone. We've only really been playing this "open" style of football for the last two or three games, prior to that the Manager's approach was very defensive but often had to be changed during the games, normally into the second half, because we were having to chase a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueSue Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 1 minute ago, 19QOS19 said: No. When did we start playing this open style of football you're talking about? We are where we are because we don't do enough attacking (something we've shown we're actually capable of doing well) and instead have approached games more defensively (something we've shown we're actually pretty poor at, if we allow crosses to come in). We were comfortably on top until the goal on Friday when we were playing an open game (something we actually did successfully against Dunfermline the week before) and it was down to our inability to mark that we went behind. After we went behind the open style seemed to disappear, we returned to sitting in and got comfortably thumped. If we had played a more open style throughout the season I'm confident we wouldn't be needing a win to stay up on Saturday. I am not arguing with you as I get what you say. My example is this. Ross county away prior to Christmas was a defensive set up which gave us a point. Last week a clearly more open style of play resulted in a 4 0 loss. I honestly have no problem with a more defensive set up away from home, catching teams on the break. It has proved to work. Where I think the problem has been is setting up defensively at home too many times this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkirkfan6871 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Falkirk fan here if we go down on Saturday I would happily take another full time club down. Whole bottom 6 been rank rotten all season and another team deserves to go. Raith can go up that way it can be a two way battle. Partick going down would make it interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Ummm surely we want Alloa to come down for the "easiest" return next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkirkfan6871 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: Ummm surely we want Alloa to come down for the "easiest" return next year? Won’t matter if Raith fail to get promotion that would keep them in the mix. Alloa could still win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 29 minutes ago, SueSue said: I honestly have no problem with a more defensive set up away from home, catching teams on the break. It has proved to work. We've lost ten of our away league games. It's not that glowing a tribute to our approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkirkfan6871 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I’d keep stenny in league one that would be less travelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_no_1 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Ì wouldn't be overly concerned about Raith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueSue Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: We've lost ten of our away league games. It's not that glowing a tribute to our approach. Prior to the 5th Jan Queens lost 3 away league games. maybe a more defensive approach away from home was not as daft as it was made out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeodhasXD Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, Falkirkfan6871 said: I’d keep stenny in league one that would be less travelling That's honestly the headache that I want to avoid desperately by staying up. League 1 next year could easy be Peterhead, Forfar, Montrose, East Fife, Brechin, Stranraer, Dumbarton and Airdrie + Raith the only journeys under an hour. East Fife is over an hour and the rest are what I would call fairly long trips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, SueSue said: Prior to the 5th Jan Queens lost 3 away league games. maybe a more defensive approach away from home was not as daft as it was made out to be. You seem to think we got all enterprising in January, thus becoming shite. I'm afraid only the second part of that is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 1 minute ago, LeodhasXD said: That's honestly the headache that I want to avoid desperately by staying up. League 1 next year could easy be Annan, Peterhead, Forfar, Montrose, East Fife, Brechin, Stranraer, Dumbarton and Airdrie which is the only journey under an hour. 2 of those journeys are just over an hour and the rest are what I would call fairly long trips. Moaning about only having two away league games within an hour's distance. Some of you people make me sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeodhasXD Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Just now, Monkey Tennis said: Moaning about only having two away league games within an hour's distance. Some of you people make me sick. Doesn't suit me for work. If it's longer than 2 hours I need the entire Saturday off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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