John Lambies Doos Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 SNP abstained. Probably best all round. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Bob Mahelp said: But where will that leave 'centralist' Tory voters....those who aren't extremists or no-dealers and who are appalled by the cull of established, experienced moderate Tory MP's by a PM that is controlled by the rabid Dominic Cummings ? More than 50% of voters are Remainers. Some clever tactical voting could see the country rid of the stench of Johnson and his band of fanatics. Voting Lib Dem I'd imagine. That's what I'd be likely to do for the first time in my life if an election is called right now. However I'd also be keen to ensure that neither Labour, nor the SNP, made any progress at all so if, in my constituency there was an option to vote tactically to keep their candidates from being elected I'd be all over that. You aren't right with your second statement though. Fewer than 50% of voters are Remainers. We saw that in the EU Referendum. 52% of those who voted, voted to leave the EU, and to be completely honest - despite their disappointment in the Conservative Party, I'm 100% certain that most of those voters will have their resolve strengthened rather than weakened by the fact that our MP's have failed to deliver on the referendum result. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: SNP abstained. Probably best all round. Shitting it...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Labour would have lost a potential general election as England is rabidly right wing and pro-Brexit.It’s fairly shite for the people who want a Hard Brexit that they keep getting fucked over.It’s shite but also very, very good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Phenomenal analysis Shitting it...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Absolute state of the Lib Dems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: SNP abstained. Probably best all round. Yep. Just a matter of getting the timing right. Anytime after Oct 31st will be just fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Over 100 amendmentsto the bill tabled by the Neanderthals in the Lords. Is Obfuscation an option here or is that not possible ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Labour would have lost a potential general election as England is rabidly right wing and pro-Brexit.It’s fairly shite for the people who want a Hard Brexit that they keep getting fucked over.It’s shite but also very, very good.Its not shite, its fucking hilarious. I love listening to LBC etc and hearing how raging they are. James Obrien does a great job, tends to ask things like ‘what 1 EU law are you most looking forward to being repealed?’ Etc. Raging arseholes don’t even know. Its mental, these people tend to be from absolute shiteholes like Barnsley etc, the type of places destroyed by the Tories and the sorts of places/workers who would be done over by brexit and a repeal of working time laws/european workers protections that they so desperately want to abolish. Why? Because they are fucking xenophobic simpletons who wish to pass control from ‘the undemocratic EU’ to ‘the house of lords and Dominic Cummings’. Get it right up any person who wants a hard brexit. Foaming at the mouth at the prospect of being made poorer, paying more for shopping/cars and the rest and not having ready access to medication etc. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 #ToriesIn is quite depressing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Labour would have lost a potential general election as England is rabidly right wing and pro-Brexit.It’s fairly shite for the people who want a Hard Brexit that they keep getting fucked over.It’s shite but also very, very good.Nah, f**k them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Its not shite, its fucking hilarious. I love listening to LBC etc and hearing how raging they are. James Obrien does a great job, tends to ask things like ‘what 1 EU law are you most looking forward to being repealed?’ Etc. Raging arseholes don’t even know. Its mental, these people tend to be from absolute shiteholes like Barnsley etc, the type of places destroyed by the Tories and the sorts of places/workers who would be done over by brexit and a repeal of working time laws/european workers protections that they so desperately want to abolish. Why? Because they are fucking xenophobic simpletons who wish to pass control from ‘the undemocratic EU’ to ‘the house of lords and Dominic Cummings’. Get it right up any person who wants a hard brexit. Foaming at the mouth at the prospect of being made poorer, paying more for shopping/cars and the rest and not having ready access to medication etc. O'Brien on LBC has become compulsive listening for me. He deserves a much wider audience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, Malky3 said: That's not possible. All they can force is for Johnston to ask for an extension from the EU. The next parliament would decide whether not a no deal Brexit would be part of the negotiation strategy. Ignorance is bliss M8. if you still believe in Brexit and you still believe in democracy you are in a dark place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: O'Brien on LBC has become compulsive listening for me. He deserves a much wider audience. Try stereo ( I agree, he's rather good) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, Malky3 said: Shitting it...... Don't blame you m9. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 This could drag on until the next G.E. on the latest date of May 5th 2022. Entirely possible the way things are going. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, sureiknow said: This could drag on until the next G.E. on the latest date of May 5th 2022. Entirely possible the way things are going. You're having a laugh, ten years minimum, whatever happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 45 minutes ago, Malky3 said: Voting Lib Dem I'd imagine. That's what I'd be likely to do for the first time in my life if an election is called right now. However I'd also be keen to ensure that neither Labour, nor the SNP, made any progress at all so if, in my constituency there was an option to vote tactically to keep their candidates from being elected I'd be all over that. You aren't right with your second statement though. Fewer than 50% of voters are Remainers. We saw that in the EU Referendum. 52% of those who voted, voted to leave the EU, and to be completely honest - despite their disappointment in the Conservative Party, I'm 100% certain that most of those voters will have their resolve strengthened rather than weakened by the fact that our MP's have failed to deliver on the referendum result. There is a fairly significant cohort within the 17.4m people who voted to leave the EU have never exercised their democratic right to vote in any other election in their lives. The pollsters estimated well over 50% of people who voted in the 2017 GE had voted to remain in the EU the year before. Having said that, in 2017 a lot of those "first time voter" Brexiteers probably felt quite comfortable that either May or Corbyn would deliver Brexit and thus stayed at home. It's possible that they'd come out to vote again to back Johnson or the Brexit party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 47 minutes ago, DrewDon said: Absolute state of the Lib Dems. I find C Jardine to be a strange mix of brittle chutzpah and simmering rage. Even for the Lib Dems she's a curious choice 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Blackford has already said in Parliament during his speech that he won't back a General Election. Not one set by Johnson.That's the crucial thing you missed out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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